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> I believe people should be able to choose what they put in their own bodies You still can, with limited exceptions: * Kids need to be vaccinated against ~9

> I believe people should be able to choose what they put in their own bodies You still can, with limited exceptions: * Kids need to be vaccinated against ~9 ailments before they attend school (seems mandatory but homeschool is an option in every state) * Adults need to be vaccinated against one before they patronize indoor restaurants, entertainment venues and gyms (completely optional activities and only in the densest city in the US, probably some others will follow) There are also things you are banned from putting in your body, some by age (tobacco & alcohol) and some entirely (e.g. DEA scheduled drugs) and some controlled to the point that are effectively illegal to consume (e.g. meats that aren't allowed to be harvested or imported)

heavyset_go 5y ago
> Adults need to be vaccinated against one before they patronize indoor restaurants, entertainment venues and gyms (completely optional activities and only in the densest city in the US, probably some others will follow) Also, adults that want to attend college classes on campus need to provide schools with proof of vaccination for about a half-dozen diseases. This was the case 20+ years ago, and it's still the case today.
- compscistd 5y ago
  So why did vaccinations suddenly become a huge problem with people today? Are these people who were never going to go to college but would have caused a fuss if the school demanded vaccination records? Or is it the right politicizing a health issue with misinformation? Maybe it’s even the left pushing vaccines that suddenly has people reflexively twitching their combative muscles?
  - dredmorbius 5y ago
    Divide-and-conquer tribalistic politics.
huntermeyer 5y ago
The vaccines kids have to get have a very high (near certainty) probability of preventing them from contracting the particular illness. The covid vaccines do not. People are still getting covid after being vaccinated. This is happening a lot.
- rzimmerman 5y ago
  The COVID vaccines reduce the risk of infection by a factor of 4 and the risk of serious disease by a factor of over 100. You’re right that vaccinated people still get COVID but the vaccines do a very good (if not quite perfect) job of protecting people and stopping spread to others.
- pb7 5y ago
  Thanks to herd immunity, which we're not going to reach with COVID because of anti-vaxxers.

heavyset_go 5y ago

> Adults need to be vaccinated against one before they patronize indoor restaurants, entertainment venues and gyms (completely optional activities and only in the densest city in the US, probably some others will follow) Also, adults that want to attend college classes on campus need to provide schools with proof of vaccination for about a half-dozen diseases. This was the case 20+ years ago, and it's still the case today.

compscistd 5y ago
So why did vaccinations suddenly become a huge problem with people today? Are these people who were never going to go to college but would have caused a fuss if the school demanded vaccination records? Or is it the right politicizing a health issue with misinformation? Maybe it’s even the left pushing vaccines that suddenly has people reflexively twitching their combative muscles?
- dredmorbius 5y ago
  Divide-and-conquer tribalistic politics.

huntermeyer 5y ago

The vaccines kids have to get have a very high (near certainty) probability of preventing them from contracting the particular illness. The covid vaccines do not. People are still getting covid after being vaccinated. This is happening a lot.

rzimmerman 5y ago
The COVID vaccines reduce the risk of infection by a factor of 4 and the risk of serious disease by a factor of over 100. You’re right that vaccinated people still get COVID but the vaccines do a very good (if not quite perfect) job of protecting people and stopping spread to others.
pb7 5y ago
Thanks to herd immunity, which we're not going to reach with COVID because of anti-vaxxers.