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> And literally anyone who wants a vaccine can get one. Completely false. There's several groups that might want the vaccine that can't get it. Including: chi

> And literally anyone who wants a vaccine can get one. Completely false. There's several groups that might want the vaccine that can't get it. Including: children and the immuno compromised. 32 kids were hospitalized in one week in Alabama last month. A state with half the population of NYC. https://www.al.com/coronavirus/2021/07/infant-among-children-battling-covid-in-alabama-hospitals-im-scared-now-uab-pediatrician-says.html https://www.al.com/coronavirus/2021/07/infant-among-children...

isleyaardvark 5y ago
Not to mention the adults who want to but can’t take sick time in case they feel side effects.
- preinheimer 5y ago
  Thank you for bringing this up!
notJim 5y ago
I think immune compromised people can generally get the vaccine, but there are questions about how effective it is. Some have proposed they may need a 3rd dose.
- monocasa 5y ago
  Practically there's next to no data on mRNA vaccines given to immuno compromised indviduals, and almost certainly isn't the case that they're fine to get the non mRNA vaccines. So they end up not taking it for valid safety concerns.
  - notJim 5y ago
    > So they end up not taking it for valid safety concerns. Are you referring to the mRNA vaccine? If so, source for this? I see lots of articles that question whether the vaccines are as effective for immuno compromised people, but none that say they shouldn't take the mRNA vaccine. In fact, I see many studies testing the efficacy of mRNA vaccines for immuno-compromised people, which would seem to indicate we think it's safe. I only know one immuno-compromised person, and she got the vaccine.
    - monocasa 5y ago
      I was referring to both types of vaccines for different reasons. Like I said, there's practically no data on the mRNA side, particularly with how "immunocompromised" is a very broad term meaning many different underlying issues. Most of the data I've seen is focused on the efficacy rates, rather than safety from complications. IMO it's fair that immunocompromised individuals want to wait a bit when it comes to an entirely new form of vaccine. The non mRNA vaccines obviously have potential issues for the kinds of people that could die from even a normal flu.

isleyaardvark 5y ago

Not to mention the adults who want to but can’t take sick time in case they feel side effects.

preinheimer 5y ago
Thank you for bringing this up!

notJim 5y ago

I think immune compromised people can generally get the vaccine, but there are questions about how effective it is. Some have proposed they may need a 3rd dose.

monocasa 5y ago
Practically there's next to no data on mRNA vaccines given to immuno compromised indviduals, and almost certainly isn't the case that they're fine to get the non mRNA vaccines. So they end up not taking it for valid safety concerns.
- notJim 5y ago
  > So they end up not taking it for valid safety concerns. Are you referring to the mRNA vaccine? If so, source for this? I see lots of articles that question whether the vaccines are as effective for immuno compromised people, but none that say they shouldn't take the mRNA vaccine. In fact, I see many studies testing the efficacy of mRNA vaccines for immuno-compromised people, which would seem to indicate we think it's safe. I only know one immuno-compromised person, and she got the vaccine.
  - monocasa 5y ago
    I was referring to both types of vaccines for different reasons. Like I said, there's practically no data on the mRNA side, particularly with how "immunocompromised" is a very broad term meaning many different underlying issues. Most of the data I've seen is focused on the efficacy rates, rather than safety from complications. IMO it's fair that immunocompromised individuals want to wait a bit when it comes to an entirely new form of vaccine. The non mRNA vaccines obviously have potential issues for the kinds of people that could die from even a normal flu.