> From what I've seen 80% of local workers end up being somewhere between marginal and abysmal, Yep. > The difference I see in results is that a remote worker

> From what I've seen 80% of local workers end up being somewhere between marginal and abysmal, Yep. > The difference I see in results is that a remote worker might trigger regrets for not really giving them a winable situation but a local internal worker triggers empathy even if they became your new lower bound on lazy. This leads some people to fix some local workers and almost all people to give them 3-5 years to improve while hiring additional people that shouldn't be needed. I again think it's a super complex problem. I think local workers have the luxury of tight feedback loops. When working with offshore labor, you have to basically build in several extra days to get what you want. For an in-office (or even in-timezone) worker, you can get regular updates in real time, so you have more opportunities to jump in if something isn't going correctly. For offshore, you give them a task and then check back in tomorrow. Usually, what they delivered wasn't close to what you asked for, but since they're offline when you're reviewing, you just have to again write what you want and send it back over the wall (where they will update what they did, but again not deliver what you wanted). It takes so much longer. The contrast between that and non-offshore-remote is still night and day. You don't have to plan so many extra cycles for converting whatever they gave you to whatever you wanted. And the timezones again are just so much easier to work with.