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Those vaccines have had years of use behind them. The coronavirus mRNA vaccines are a completely new technology and haven't even been given anything past emerge

Those vaccines have had years of use behind them. The coronavirus mRNA vaccines are a completely new technology and haven't even been given anything past emergency approval. This is an apples and oranges comparison.

bingidingi 5y ago
MRNA vaccines are not new, but the efficacy is. There are drugs on the market right now with much less r&d behind them. The main problem with the covid vaccines are political machinations.
pklausler 5y ago
What's your excuse for avoiding the J&J vaccine?
- tedunangst 5y ago
  Not the best argument. Adenovirus vector is possibly less studied than mRNA, with a number of not great failure modes.
- rPlayer6554 5y ago
  When did I say I wasn't getting the vaccine? I think it's prudent to ask questions and consider the consequences of a medication before taking it.
standardUser 5y ago
"The coronavirus mRNA vaccines are a completely new technology" There have been mRNA vaccines in human clinical trials for around 10 years and they have been studied for around 30 years. There are countless examples of other non-controversial medicines developed and studied for far shorter lengths of time.
- 12elephant 5y ago
  What is one mRNA vaccine that has been approved by the FDA?
  - deleted 5y ago
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  - eropple 5y ago
    Well, the Moderna and Pfizer ones for emergency use, and now that the data is in, they're looking for full and complete approval around Labor Day. I trust you will stop just-asking-questions at that time?
    - 12elephant 5y ago
      Probably not.
- aimkey 5y ago
  >in human clinical trials for around 10 years And no approval. In other words, this is a dangerous class of drug that has failed to obtain a single human-use approval in 30 years. Thanks for the info!
Uberphallus 5y ago
And this is a completely new virus. If regular vaccines vs mRNA is apples to oranges, then vaccines vs. any other option to solve the problem is oranges to a truckload of durian.
- rPlayer6554 5y ago
  And what is your point? So yes we have no idea what the long term (I'm talking 3+ year) effects of covid are. That doesn't make us understand the vaccines any better. You still have to make a choice between two somewhat unknowns. Yes so far the data does show the vaccine is the better option, but we can't know for sure. So you still should be as informed as possible before making a decision.
  - Uberphallus 5y ago
    The decision has to be taken, and each tick of the clock pushes it to the one that, with the currently available information, is the worst by many orders of magnitude.

bingidingi 5y ago

MRNA vaccines are not new, but the efficacy is. There are drugs on the market right now with much less r&d behind them. The main problem with the covid vaccines are political machinations.

pklausler 5y ago

What's your excuse for avoiding the J&J vaccine?

tedunangst 5y ago
Not the best argument. Adenovirus vector is possibly less studied than mRNA, with a number of not great failure modes.
rPlayer6554 5y ago
When did I say I wasn't getting the vaccine? I think it's prudent to ask questions and consider the consequences of a medication before taking it.

standardUser 5y ago

"The coronavirus mRNA vaccines are a completely new technology" There have been mRNA vaccines in human clinical trials for around 10 years and they have been studied for around 30 years. There are countless examples of other non-controversial medicines developed and studied for far shorter lengths of time.

12elephant 5y ago
What is one mRNA vaccine that has been approved by the FDA?
- deleted 5y ago
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- eropple 5y ago
  Well, the Moderna and Pfizer ones for emergency use, and now that the data is in, they're looking for full and complete approval around Labor Day. I trust you will stop just-asking-questions at that time?
  - 12elephant 5y ago
    Probably not.
aimkey 5y ago
>in human clinical trials for around 10 years And no approval. In other words, this is a dangerous class of drug that has failed to obtain a single human-use approval in 30 years. Thanks for the info!

Uberphallus 5y ago

And this is a completely new virus. If regular vaccines vs mRNA is apples to oranges, then vaccines vs. any other option to solve the problem is oranges to a truckload of durian.

rPlayer6554 5y ago
And what is your point? So yes we have no idea what the long term (I'm talking 3+ year) effects of covid are. That doesn't make us understand the vaccines any better. You still have to make a choice between two somewhat unknowns. Yes so far the data does show the vaccine is the better option, but we can't know for sure. So you still should be as informed as possible before making a decision.
- Uberphallus 5y ago
  The decision has to be taken, and each tick of the clock pushes it to the one that, with the currently available information, is the worst by many orders of magnitude.