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Regarding China, maybe it’s best to stick to the following German folk song: (English translation is unfortunately not not as good as the original, sorry). Tho

by frnkng 5y ago

Regarding China, maybe it’s best to stick to the following German folk song: (English translation is unfortunately not not as good as the original, sorry). Thoughts are free, who can guess them? They fly by like nocturnal shadows. No person can know them, no hunter can shoot them with powder and lead: Thoughts are free! With other words: think what you want (but be careful to speak it out).

WastingMyTime89 5y ago
No, China shouldn't be able to squash critical speach in foreign countries. The solution is not to cower out in fear. Institution which sanctions people critical to China should be shamed and sanctioned as much as possible. All of this is very intentional from China. It is a form of cultural war where China is fighting aggressively against the core western values using his new found economic power. Staying passive is chosing to lose.
- curiousgal 5y ago
  Except China didn't? The professor personally chose to terminate her relationship with the student, the only complaint she received was from a Chinese student in Canada. You make it seem like the Chinese ambassador was involved.
  - lazyeye 5y ago
    The professor terminated the relationship knowing how the Chinese nation reacts to criticism no matter how insignificant the source.
- lazyeye 5y ago
  Yes we often here about "anti-intellectualism" but there are often good reasons to be contemptuous of a sector of society that likes to tell everybody else how to think and behave but dont live up to those same standards themselves. People arent stupid.
- frnkng 5y ago
  Listen man. This has nothing to do with cowering in fear or staying passive. Please don’t make the mistake cowardice with pointlessness. Do not underestimate the reach and abilities of a whole nation that want to shutdown critical voices. This was possible 80 years ago within a nation and it is possible on a global scale today. Nothing can be gained by just posting critic online. It will be stored forever, personally linked to the author and should it not be liked by some nations or corporations, the author has to bear the consequences. Possibly forever. We did build the Internet with good intentions, now we have a global harassment and suppression machine. We have to live with that reality now even if we dislike it. We can’t undo it. Things that are “hold my beer..” style only bring pain.
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Goety 5y ago
China has more silent support for squashing free speech globally than the US audience realizes

by frnkng 5y ago

WastingMyTime89 5y ago

No, China shouldn't be able to squash critical speach in foreign countries. The solution is not to cower out in fear. Institution which sanctions people critical to China should be shamed and sanctioned as much as possible. All of this is very intentional from China. It is a form of cultural war where China is fighting aggressively against the core western values using his new found economic power. Staying passive is chosing to lose.

curiousgal 5y ago
Except China didn't? The professor personally chose to terminate her relationship with the student, the only complaint she received was from a Chinese student in Canada. You make it seem like the Chinese ambassador was involved.
- lazyeye 5y ago
  The professor terminated the relationship knowing how the Chinese nation reacts to criticism no matter how insignificant the source.
lazyeye 5y ago
Yes we often here about "anti-intellectualism" but there are often good reasons to be contemptuous of a sector of society that likes to tell everybody else how to think and behave but dont live up to those same standards themselves. People arent stupid.
frnkng 5y ago
Listen man. This has nothing to do with cowering in fear or staying passive. Please don’t make the mistake cowardice with pointlessness. Do not underestimate the reach and abilities of a whole nation that want to shutdown critical voices. This was possible 80 years ago within a nation and it is possible on a global scale today. Nothing can be gained by just posting critic online. It will be stored forever, personally linked to the author and should it not be liked by some nations or corporations, the author has to bear the consequences. Possibly forever. We did build the Internet with good intentions, now we have a global harassment and suppression machine. We have to live with that reality now even if we dislike it. We can’t undo it. Things that are “hold my beer..” style only bring pain.
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Goety 5y ago

China has more silent support for squashing free speech globally than the US audience realizes