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> I would blame more the cold messed up soviet-era society for this Please read The Prince, The Karamazov Brothers, Eugene Onegin, The Death of Ivan Ilyich, or

by shakow 5y ago

> I would blame more the cold messed up soviet-era society for this Please read The Prince, The Karamazov Brothers, Eugene Onegin, The Death of Ivan Ilyich, or Dead Souls before writing this kind of grotesque sweeping statements.

rpmisms 5y ago
Pre-Soviet literature is dark, but it really doesn't compare to Soviet-era works. Soviet Russia was a fucked-up place, I hope you don't get your information from propagandists.
- wayoutthere 5y ago
  America is also a fucked up place where people walk around in fear of the police and the paramilitary forces (sorry, “patriots”) that occupy most of the US outside the major cities. You never know when one of them is going to pop into a synagogue or a grocery store with an AR-15. This country is dystopian af too; the American dream died with 9/11. We’re just another empire that’s rotting from the core.
  - rpmisms 5y ago
    Out of curiosity—do you live here? America is beginning its decline, there's no question. I think you're worried about the wrong things, but that's simply a matter of opinion. Thankfully, we're nowhere near the insanity of 40s-50s Soviet Russia. Here, we have a right to freedom of speech, and at least ostensibly a right to bear arms. Hopefully we can maintain those rights and avoid the hellish police state phase of the collapse.
    - wayoutthere 5y ago
      Yup I live in America, and the black eye and tear gas I got from the cops last summer during the protests told me all I needed to know about the state violence that occurs in the US. Not to mention the “cops” showing up in unmarked vans and snatching people off the street, or secret prisons, or the cellular surveillance planes, or the vigilante “patrols” that continue to this day and are encouraged by the police captains. The police state is here, and if you own guns they’ll just storm your house with a swat team, shoot your dog, and charge you for assaulting an officer.
      - rpmisms 5y ago
        So, you dislike the state, dislike vigilantism, dislike citizens defending themselves, and also have no viable solutions except organizing the state more to your liking. You need some Socratic Method in your life.
- shakow 5y ago
  > Pre-Soviet literature is dark, but it really doesn't compare to Soviet-era works. That's a very werid take. I don't see how e.g. the Strugatskii are darker than Gogol. Have you read the books you allude to?

by shakow 5y ago

rpmisms 5y ago

Pre-Soviet literature is dark, but it really doesn't compare to Soviet-era works. Soviet Russia was a fucked-up place, I hope you don't get your information from propagandists.

wayoutthere 5y ago
America is also a fucked up place where people walk around in fear of the police and the paramilitary forces (sorry, “patriots”) that occupy most of the US outside the major cities. You never know when one of them is going to pop into a synagogue or a grocery store with an AR-15. This country is dystopian af too; the American dream died with 9/11. We’re just another empire that’s rotting from the core.
- rpmisms 5y ago
  Out of curiosity—do you live here? America is beginning its decline, there's no question. I think you're worried about the wrong things, but that's simply a matter of opinion. Thankfully, we're nowhere near the insanity of 40s-50s Soviet Russia. Here, we have a right to freedom of speech, and at least ostensibly a right to bear arms. Hopefully we can maintain those rights and avoid the hellish police state phase of the collapse.
  - wayoutthere 5y ago
    Yup I live in America, and the black eye and tear gas I got from the cops last summer during the protests told me all I needed to know about the state violence that occurs in the US. Not to mention the “cops” showing up in unmarked vans and snatching people off the street, or secret prisons, or the cellular surveillance planes, or the vigilante “patrols” that continue to this day and are encouraged by the police captains. The police state is here, and if you own guns they’ll just storm your house with a swat team, shoot your dog, and charge you for assaulting an officer.
    - rpmisms 5y ago
      So, you dislike the state, dislike vigilantism, dislike citizens defending themselves, and also have no viable solutions except organizing the state more to your liking. You need some Socratic Method in your life.
shakow 5y ago
> Pre-Soviet literature is dark, but it really doesn't compare to Soviet-era works. That's a very werid take. I don't see how e.g. the Strugatskii are darker than Gogol. Have you read the books you allude to?