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I feel like you’re getting personally offended here. And I get it, you’re likely a responsible person who will be respectful with my information. However… whe

I feel like you’re getting personally offended here. And I get it, you’re likely a responsible person who will be respectful with my information. However… when looking at apps and signing up for them, can you tell me how I would differentiate someone like you (who I can probably trust) with someone who will sell my information, or send me a ton of emails? Even with good developers, some will make mistakes and lose data. Some will get sold and the new owner will do different things. As a user, not only can I not pick out the bad from the good, but I don’t know that the good will be good forever. (I say this as someone who has been burned a few time. Always using a different email address when signing up allows me to track who is doing bad things. It happens far too often)

collaborative 5y ago
If you want to make sure, check who is behind the app before you sign up and make an informed decision from there Of course it is easier when you can relate the app to a physical person (as in my case). How can you make sure the physical person has good morals? That is a lot harder I did dislike implementing AppleID purely because I was told to do it and even how to make it look which went against the design I'd already nailed for the app. It just put me off. I just wish Apple treated developers with more respect but it seems even Apple users are happy that they mistreat us. It seems Apple users enjoy the "power" Apple has over us. I think that this is just evil. It's like enjoying the "power" Uber has over the taxi market, or the "power" Deliveroo has over the miserable sods that do the deliveries. I don't know what the solution is, but Apple needs to change this behavior and the only way might be to "convince" their users somehow. Strikes are never a pretty sight Again, I guess you could draw an analogy with Uber. We used to depend on our luck to find a clean/respectful/honest taxi driver and now we rely on Uber to manage this for us (with reviews etc). But Uber never really had their drivers in mind, and it took collective action for Uber to start respecting them a bit. I think that something similar needs to happen in the app space. We need rights
- CubsFan1060 5y ago
  This is an interesting viewpoint. "It seems Apple users enjoy the "power" Apple has over us." --> Absolutely yes. But it just goes back to my main point - I am unable to vet app developers. And even if I do, there is no way to ensure data is handled well long-term. What if Facebook makes you an offer you can't resist? Basically, I have had many experiences with developers abusing my information. Now I have someone fighting back for me (don't get me wrong, I'm not an idiot. I know they are doing it because I pay them an obscene amount of money). The way to convince people is for developers, as a whole, to behave responsibly. If developers had never abused my information, I'd likely have no issues ever giving them some of my information. Edit: I'd just like to say again that I am in no way saying that you are doing anything bad. You seem like a good fellow. And perhaps the curse of being one of the few good people in a room of bad people.

collaborative 5y ago

If you want to make sure, check who is behind the app before you sign up and make an informed decision from there Of course it is easier when you can relate the app to a physical person (as in my case). How can you make sure the physical person has good morals? That is a lot harder I did dislike implementing AppleID purely because I was told to do it and even how to make it look which went against the design I'd already nailed for the app. It just put me off. I just wish Apple treated developers with more respect but it seems even Apple users are happy that they mistreat us. It seems Apple users enjoy the "power" Apple has over us. I think that this is just evil. It's like enjoying the "power" Uber has over the taxi market, or the "power" Deliveroo has over the miserable sods that do the deliveries. I don't know what the solution is, but Apple needs to change this behavior and the only way might be to "convince" their users somehow. Strikes are never a pretty sight Again, I guess you could draw an analogy with Uber. We used to depend on our luck to find a clean/respectful/honest taxi driver and now we rely on Uber to manage this for us (with reviews etc). But Uber never really had their drivers in mind, and it took collective action for Uber to start respecting them a bit. I think that something similar needs to happen in the app space. We need rights

CubsFan1060 5y ago
This is an interesting viewpoint. "It seems Apple users enjoy the "power" Apple has over us." --> Absolutely yes. But it just goes back to my main point - I am unable to vet app developers. And even if I do, there is no way to ensure data is handled well long-term. What if Facebook makes you an offer you can't resist? Basically, I have had many experiences with developers abusing my information. Now I have someone fighting back for me (don't get me wrong, I'm not an idiot. I know they are doing it because I pay them an obscene amount of money). The way to convince people is for developers, as a whole, to behave responsibly. If developers had never abused my information, I'd likely have no issues ever giving them some of my information. Edit: I'd just like to say again that I am in no way saying that you are doing anything bad. You seem like a good fellow. And perhaps the curse of being one of the few good people in a room of bad people.