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Considering that the CCP paid The NY Times, LA Times, and other major papers to publish propaganda pieces and not publish COVID lab leak pieces during 2020, I d
by chrissnell 5y ago
Considering that the CCP paid The NY Times, LA Times, and other major papers to publish propaganda pieces and not publish COVID lab leak pieces during 2020, I don't believe much of what I read when it comes to articles that could be deemed favorable to China.
- agucova 5y agoDo you have evidence for this from a reputable source?
- octonion 5y agoOf course he doesn't, as it's complete nonsense.
- goldenkey 5y agoChinese mouthpiece paid US newspapers $19 mn in ads, printing: https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/chinese-mouthpiece-paid-us-newspapers-19-mn-in-ads-printing-report-120060900514_1.html https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/chin... Please refrain from reactionary insults like calling chrissnell's comment "nonsense." It's in poor taste even if you're supported by others who don't bother to perform even cursory research.
- mastax 5y agoOkay, China Daily paid for ads. Any evidence that "CCP paid The NY Times, LA Times, and other major papers to [...] not publish COVID lab leak pieces during 2020"?
- goldenkey 5y agoChina Daily (simplified Chinese: 中国日报; traditional Chinese: 中國日報; pinyin: Zhōngguó Rìbào) is an English-language daily newspaper owned by the Publicity Department of the Chinese Communist Party. I'm getting confused. Is China Daily separate from the CCP?
- Bud 5y agoChina Daily actually paid mostly (if you actually read the FARA documents that were falsely cited above as evidence) to print copies of the China Daily for dissemination in the US. That's very clear from the documents. The advertising was a relatively minor endeavor by comparison and limited mostly to buying WaPo ads, whereas they paid a number of papers to print the China Daily. There's no evidence at all that US papers were paid to publish "propaganda pieces".
- ShroudedNight 5y agoWas this a regular transaction? Was the price per unit notably divergent from other contracts? It's important to remember that graft often gets whitewashed in legitimate-looking transactions. That being said, $19 million USD sounds like a particularly insignificant sum for risk that would be incurred to the reputation of a single US tier 1 journalistic publication let alone multiple.
- goldenkey 5y agoThey paid millions for pro-china ads, the kind that look like actual articles. It's important to remember that graft often gets whitewashed in legitimate-looking transactions. The money, regardless of what it's for, is coming straight from the Chinese government. There is of course more money transfers that haven't been discovered. You don't have to be a genius to know that for every bit discovered there is a byte still covered.. China Daily (simplified Chinese: 中国日报; traditional Chinese: 中國日報; pinyin: Zhōngguó Rìbào) is an English-language daily newspaper owned by the Publicity Department of the Chinese Communist Party.
- chalst 5y agochrissnell claims the NYT etc accepted money to spike stories. Your story doesn't validate his claim.
- lamontcg 5y agoMeanwhile the NYT published an article on the lab leak theory by the same author that published the 2003 article on Iraq's WMDs (co-author with Judith Curry) that helped push us into war. And I don't have to dig into anything financial to find that, its sitting there staring at you right on the byline.
- the_optimist 5y ago“ The Daily Caller first reported the multimillion-dollar expenditures on June 8, based on an 86-page Justice Department filing dated June 1.” [0] https://dailycaller.com/2020/06/08/chinese-propaganda-china-daily-washington-post/ https://dailycaller.com/2020/06/08/chinese-propaganda-china-... [1] https://efile.fara.gov/docs/3457-Amendment-20200601-2.pdf https://efile.fara.gov/docs/3457-Amendment-20200601-2.pdf
- Bud 5y agoThe FARA source doesn't support your conclusion here, which leaves the Daily Caller, which is a white supremacist rag that Tucker Carlson puts out. In other words, you have no evidence to support this.
- the_optimist 5y agoWe have evidence that the Chinese Communist Party has made substantial "advertising" payments to the New York Times, Washington Post, Twitter, the Seattle Times, the Wall Street Journal, Chicago Tribute, Sun Sentinel. The evidence of payments may not confirm the conclusion, but it certainly supports it. In any case, I'll be submitting your declaration to the Daily Caller, so you can truly stand behind it.
- Bud 5y agoOh, please, make my day. Sic the Nazi boys on me, go for it. I will be happy to stand behind it.
- the_optimist 5y agoI am pleased to stand aside and observe a fool at play. Do write more!
- the_optimist 5y ago@dang, what’s the idea here? Are we allowed to slander groups if they’re not here to represent themselves? For example, I would never write something like ‘baritone.org is a crypto-homophobic site that Jeff Fields maintains.” is that okay?