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Hi, here the 2-bit dev You don't need to choose between Apple, FB, or Google. You can sign up with your email address, which means these companies get no analy

Hi, here the 2-bit dev You don't need to choose between Apple, FB, or Google. You can sign up with your email address, which means these companies get no analytics on your behavior The reason "privacy" is in quotes is that some of us have started seeing through what Apple really means every time they use the word. As the EU's Executive Vice-President Margrethe Vestager has recently said regarding their Apple probe, privacy can't be an excuse to stifle competition. https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/07/02/eu-antitrust-head-warns-against-apple-using-privacy-security-to-stave-off-competition https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/07/02/eu-antitrust-head...

djrogers 5y ago
> You can sign up with your email address You’re still missing it - we don’t trust YOU with our email address. Before today we didn’t know who you are or what you stand for, and we didn’t trust you with our email address. After today, I’m sure I wouldn’t trust you with my private relay address, as you clearly care very little about your users.
- collaborative 5y ago
  On the contrary, I care very much about my users. Precisely because of this I am campaigning against Apple because they seek to extend their powers beyond reasonable measure. It is in everyone's interest, mine and the interest of my users, that Apple doesn't get to dictate us what we can and cannot do on their platform. But even worse is that Apple gets to dictate to us what we MUST do, which is the case in contention and a serious fault in my view I get it, you trust Apple. But are you Apple? If not, then why do you defend what is clearly very unreasonable and anti-competitive behavior?
  - qeternity 5y ago
    > I get it, you trust Apple. But are you Apple? I’m not you either, yet you ask me to trust you. Please, just listen, because you’re clearly not getting it. Nobody knows you or trusts you. Many people, including myself, trust Apple far more than we trust you. This is because Apple has tens of billions of dollars in revenue from hardware sales. Selling some email addresses is going to bring a relatively paltry amount. I can’t say for certain they wouldn’t do it, but it would be really dumb. You on the other hand are much more likely to violate your users privacy because you don’t have another revenue stream at risk.

djrogers 5y ago

> You can sign up with your email address You’re still missing it - we don’t trust YOU with our email address. Before today we didn’t know who you are or what you stand for, and we didn’t trust you with our email address. After today, I’m sure I wouldn’t trust you with my private relay address, as you clearly care very little about your users.

collaborative 5y ago
On the contrary, I care very much about my users. Precisely because of this I am campaigning against Apple because they seek to extend their powers beyond reasonable measure. It is in everyone's interest, mine and the interest of my users, that Apple doesn't get to dictate us what we can and cannot do on their platform. But even worse is that Apple gets to dictate to us what we MUST do, which is the case in contention and a serious fault in my view I get it, you trust Apple. But are you Apple? If not, then why do you defend what is clearly very unreasonable and anti-competitive behavior?
- qeternity 5y ago
  > I get it, you trust Apple. But are you Apple? I’m not you either, yet you ask me to trust you. Please, just listen, because you’re clearly not getting it. Nobody knows you or trusts you. Many people, including myself, trust Apple far more than we trust you. This is because Apple has tens of billions of dollars in revenue from hardware sales. Selling some email addresses is going to bring a relatively paltry amount. I can’t say for certain they wouldn’t do it, but it would be really dumb. You on the other hand are much more likely to violate your users privacy because you don’t have another revenue stream at risk.