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Nobody is forced to add Apple ID login if they don't have any other social logins. Personally I stick to direct signup but if I were forced to do social login,

Nobody is forced to add Apple ID login if they don't have any other social logins. Personally I stick to direct signup but if I were forced to do social login, Sign in with Apple would be my first preference as it's the most privacy-preserving compared to Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc.

sandworm101 5y ago
>> but if I were forced to do social login I wonder what it would take to "force" me into doing a social login? It would have to be something drastic, like a website that provides me with needed oxygen.
- dasyatidprime 5y ago
  Anything else that would ‘force’ you to Have an Account somewhere, combined with that somewhere happening to outsource their identity framework to “social” of any kind. Or: the same things that would ‘force’ you to have a social network account to start with, potentially. To get on my hobbyhorse some: what about a platform that your employer uses to distribute relevant documents and updates which you need for your job, which has become sufficiently well-known and implicitly available that hesitating about the dependency is perceived as bizarre? Note that the response of “don't deal with them then” runs into market information and churn amplification¹ issues when it is a social assumption that picking up a ‘tool’ (which is actually a relationship with a third party, but where this is close to invisible in the steady state) is essentially a free action which requires no consideration, because the information about “does this employer require me to use this tool” neither propagates efficiently nor stays stable. Past source: wound up changing the email address on one of my Google accounts recently for exactly that reason. They actually asked me up-front whether I had a GMail account they could use instead, which turned out to be because they use restricted Google Docs for critical material. Not naming them, but in a broad sense, this is one of the more ethical companies I've ever dealt with, by the way. Future source: I should probably be considering digging into LinkedIn soon despite their past abusive behaviors, because as it turns out, if I want to dig myself out of this hole… ¹ I assume there's a ‘real’ term for what I'm thinking of, but I don't know what it is, so I cobbled that one together out of the most relevant-seeming bits.

sandworm101 5y ago

>> but if I were forced to do social login I wonder what it would take to "force" me into doing a social login? It would have to be something drastic, like a website that provides me with needed oxygen.

dasyatidprime 5y ago
Anything else that would ‘force’ you to Have an Account somewhere, combined with that somewhere happening to outsource their identity framework to “social” of any kind. Or: the same things that would ‘force’ you to have a social network account to start with, potentially. To get on my hobbyhorse some: what about a platform that your employer uses to distribute relevant documents and updates which you need for your job, which has become sufficiently well-known and implicitly available that hesitating about the dependency is perceived as bizarre? Note that the response of “don't deal with them then” runs into market information and churn amplification¹ issues when it is a social assumption that picking up a ‘tool’ (which is actually a relationship with a third party, but where this is close to invisible in the steady state) is essentially a free action which requires no consideration, because the information about “does this employer require me to use this tool” neither propagates efficiently nor stays stable. Past source: wound up changing the email address on one of my Google accounts recently for exactly that reason. They actually asked me up-front whether I had a GMail account they could use instead, which turned out to be because they use restricted Google Docs for critical material. Not naming them, but in a broad sense, this is one of the more ethical companies I've ever dealt with, by the way. Future source: I should probably be considering digging into LinkedIn soon despite their past abusive behaviors, because as it turns out, if I want to dig myself out of this hole… ¹ I assume there's a ‘real’ term for what I'm thinking of, but I don't know what it is, so I cobbled that one together out of the most relevant-seeming bits.