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> I send 0 emails and privacy and security are top priorities. I am passionate about E2E encryption so I have integrated loads of that in the app too - "priva

> I send 0 emails and privacy and security are top priorities. I am passionate about E2E encryption so I have integrated loads of that in the app too - "privacy and security are top priorities". and then - Wants to force users to only use the least private log ins: via Facebook and Google - Is pissed when privacy-conscious users hide their emails via Sign-in with Apple > I am a bit tired of people trusting big tech so much. They are businesses, meant to make money. Yes, yes they are. So why do you trust FB and Google and force your users to use those log in methods?

collaborative 5y ago
I am going to assume you haven't read/understood everything I wrote I don't force users to use Google/FB. They can use traditional email signup just fine Emails could be masked before Apple ID came along. Namely, gmail addresses let you do this. So it's not anything new or revolutionary. Users could use that to sign up for Groups before I would have probably ended up implementing Apple ID, but the fact that they forced it in a most discorteous manner frankly p**d me off. When someone does this kind of stuff you need to remember and try to curb their behavior where possible. That's what I'm doing ps. I don't trust FB or Google either
- dmitriid 5y ago
  > Emails could be masked before Apple ID came along. Namely, gmail addresses let you do this. How? I've used gmail for over a decade now, and I have no idea how to do that with my address. > I don't trust FB or Google either And yet you have no qualms providing a login through either of them both in the app and on the web. So much for "I care about security and privacy".
  - baryphonic 5y ago
    Gmail has the `+` trick and ignores any `.`s in the name area. E.g. `foo@gmail.com`, `foo+bar@gmail.com` and `f.o.o@gmail.com` will all deliver to the same gmail inbox. It's not nothing (I tend to use it to track how my email address is being sold), but not a real level of masking, since anyone in the know could regenerate the "standard" address easily.
  - collaborative 5y ago
    https://www.labnol.org/internet/disposable-email-address/28072/ https://www.labnol.org/internet/disposable-email-address/280...

collaborative 5y ago

I am going to assume you haven't read/understood everything I wrote I don't force users to use Google/FB. They can use traditional email signup just fine Emails could be masked before Apple ID came along. Namely, gmail addresses let you do this. So it's not anything new or revolutionary. Users could use that to sign up for Groups before I would have probably ended up implementing Apple ID, but the fact that they forced it in a most discorteous manner frankly p**d me off. When someone does this kind of stuff you need to remember and try to curb their behavior where possible. That's what I'm doing ps. I don't trust FB or Google either

dmitriid 5y ago
> Emails could be masked before Apple ID came along. Namely, gmail addresses let you do this. How? I've used gmail for over a decade now, and I have no idea how to do that with my address. > I don't trust FB or Google either And yet you have no qualms providing a login through either of them both in the app and on the web. So much for "I care about security and privacy".
- baryphonic 5y ago
  Gmail has the `+` trick and ignores any `.`s in the name area. E.g. `foo@gmail.com`, `foo+bar@gmail.com` and `f.o.o@gmail.com` will all deliver to the same gmail inbox. It's not nothing (I tend to use it to track how my email address is being sold), but not a real level of masking, since anyone in the know could regenerate the "standard" address easily.
- collaborative 5y ago
  https://www.labnol.org/internet/disposable-email-address/28072/ https://www.labnol.org/internet/disposable-email-address/280...