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This is obviously over-dramatic and an arguably false point of view. A third-hand diesel VW is probably a great choice for anyone who cares about the climate or

This is obviously over-dramatic and an arguably false point of view. A third-hand diesel VW is probably a great choice for anyone who cares about the climate or has any personality whatsoever. Also, a few charging stations being troublesome is not equivalent to a gas station pump being out of order. It takes awhile, and any spaces filled will be filled for a while. At the pump, you can wait for 5 min and a space will be free, and you can continue driving for 5-800km. Yes it'll cost you, especially in Britain, but that's what people pay for. I have zero interest atm in electric vehicles, on the basis that they're largely inpractically expensive, aren't well-suited for renters, and aren't as well-suited for the only thing I'd need a car for, which is long-distance road trips. I could adapt, but I'd really be working my life around something I absolutely don't need to own yet.

bitwize 5y ago
> I have zero interest atm in electric vehicles, on the basis that they're largely inpractically expensive, aren't well-suited for renters, and aren't as well-suited for the only thing I'd need a car for, which is long-distance road trips. And this is why your government, and many others, are passing or considering ICE bans. The right thing is often too much hassle for people to do on their own, and they need to be forced into it.
- pjmlp 5y ago
  Assuming the new cars are available at price families that traditionally buy Xth hand cars in rates, can actually afford.
  - toomuchtodo 5y ago
    How can you afford to buy and operate a combustion vehicle when it’s contributing to catastrophic climate change?
    - pjmlp 5y ago
      When the infrastructure isn't there, it takes 2 hours to do what are 30 minutes by car, when transport are available excluding the weekends and after 8pm, and one can buy a combustion vehicle for 5 000 euros on credit.
    - brailsafe 5y ago
      Everything is contributing to climate change to some extent, but buying a used ICE vehicle and continuing to use it till it dies is probably better than indebting myself for years to buy a logistically challenging and otherwise unmanufactured car.

bitwize 5y ago

> I have zero interest atm in electric vehicles, on the basis that they're largely inpractically expensive, aren't well-suited for renters, and aren't as well-suited for the only thing I'd need a car for, which is long-distance road trips. And this is why your government, and many others, are passing or considering ICE bans. The right thing is often too much hassle for people to do on their own, and they need to be forced into it.

pjmlp 5y ago
Assuming the new cars are available at price families that traditionally buy Xth hand cars in rates, can actually afford.
- toomuchtodo 5y ago
  How can you afford to buy and operate a combustion vehicle when it’s contributing to catastrophic climate change?
  - pjmlp 5y ago
    When the infrastructure isn't there, it takes 2 hours to do what are 30 minutes by car, when transport are available excluding the weekends and after 8pm, and one can buy a combustion vehicle for 5 000 euros on credit.
  - brailsafe 5y ago
    Everything is contributing to climate change to some extent, but buying a used ICE vehicle and continuing to use it till it dies is probably better than indebting myself for years to buy a logistically challenging and otherwise unmanufactured car.