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AFAIR, all of the places she visits (south Scotland, Gloucestershire, north Wales, Lake District) have good train service from London. Would be a good advert f

AFAIR, all of the places she visits (south Scotland, Gloucestershire, north Wales, Lake District) have good train service from London. Would be a good advert for the trains if she used them instead of what is presumably a non-eco friendly diesel...

Cymrukicks 5y ago
Getting around those places once you've used the train will absolutely require a car and none of them have Uber or an equivalent.
- 12ian34 5y ago
  taxi services, buses and local train services exist in all of those places.
some_chap 5y ago
So many problems with that assertion... You've got very low expectations if you count those as "good" services - trying to travel with one small child would be challenging, two is likely to be stressful, even before the issues of getting from the station to the destination for one, let alone a family... Then there's the costs, in both time and money... There are certain people for whom current EV's don't make sense - from what she say's, she's currently one of them. Maybe not ideal, but in the real-world, that's sometimes the way it is. Doesn't mean that the issues shouldn't be addressed, but not all obstacles can be avoided at a reasonable cost.
- zimpenfish 5y ago
  > You've got very low expectations if you count those as "good" services A fair point. "Workable" is probably better. > trying to travel with one small child would be challenging, two is likely to be stressful Sure but I know a lot of people who manage that regularly on similar routes without having to resort to cars. > Maybe not ideal, but in the real-world, that's sometimes the way it is. Sure but if you're a top-level government climate spokesperson, using an old diesel car because "you don't want to stop to charge" in an EV and you seemingly haven't even considered trains is a very bad look.

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AFAIR, all of the places she visits (south Scotland, Gloucestershire, north Wales, Lake District) have good train service from London. Would be a good advert f

by zimpenfish 5y ago

Cymrukicks 5y ago
Getting around those places once you've used the train will absolutely require a car and none of them have Uber or an equivalent.
- 12ian34 5y ago
  taxi services, buses and local train services exist in all of those places.
some_chap 5y ago
So many problems with that assertion... You've got very low expectations if you count those as "good" services - trying to travel with one small child would be challenging, two is likely to be stressful, even before the issues of getting from the station to the destination for one, let alone a family... Then there's the costs, in both time and money... There are certain people for whom current EV's don't make sense - from what she say's, she's currently one of them. Maybe not ideal, but in the real-world, that's sometimes the way it is. Doesn't mean that the issues shouldn't be addressed, but not all obstacles can be avoided at a reasonable cost.
- zimpenfish 5y ago
  > You've got very low expectations if you count those as "good" services A fair point. "Workable" is probably better. > trying to travel with one small child would be challenging, two is likely to be stressful Sure but I know a lot of people who manage that regularly on similar routes without having to resort to cars. > Maybe not ideal, but in the real-world, that's sometimes the way it is. Sure but if you're a top-level government climate spokesperson, using an old diesel car because "you don't want to stop to charge" in an EV and you seemingly haven't even considered trains is a very bad look.