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Most people have no clue what the proud boys even are. All they know is "proud boys bad, very bad", because that's the narrative the powers that be want to push

Most people have no clue what the proud boys even are. All they know is "proud boys bad, very bad", because that's the narrative the powers that be want to push. The whole point of a platform like PinePage is to prevent individuals' lives from being ruined by the ignorant masses riled up in socially engineered hysteria that are serving mob justice on behalf of powerful interests (cancel culture). Your comment proves the need for the existence of such a platform. Have a watch of this short history of the proud boys and tell me if an organisation like the proud boys merits being banned anywhere: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsNlteJQunc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsNlteJQunc It's also very curious how organisations like BLM or antifa never make it onto these lists of boogeymen that need to be censored, even though they've said and done plenty of despicable (even criminal) things. Ever wonder why? It's for the same reason that not a single piece of fake news about Trump has ever been censored, even though real news about Biden is being censored and called fake news (remember the Hunter Biden laptop?). It's because censorship only serves to consolidate and protect the power of the authoritarians who implement it. That is dangerous no matter which side does it.

russdpale 5y ago
Sorry, but your sympathizing with fascists is disgusting. They have no place in our society. I'm not watching your video or even wasting any more time with you.
- pinepage 5y ago
  "They have no place in our society". Who are they? Concretely! And by "our society", do you mean your society? Can we be allowed in? On what terms? What if you're the one not allowed in? Should we close your twitter, facebook, youtube account. Maybe we should go after your bank account, insurance, and your job so that you can't feed yourself or your family? This have happend to many people who just said something wrong on social media. This is the kind of thing you are advocating, and it is frankly disgusting.
  - russdpale 5y ago
    Who are they? You know the answer to this question, you just don't care. Or you care more about enabling the grift and hate then you do about any sort of truth or free speech.
- pure_simplicity 5y ago
  Just to be clear, I'm gonna call you out now because you falsely accuse me of being a fascist sympathiser: russdpale is so uncertain in his beliefs that he cannot allow himself to even look at an 11 minute historical analysis of the proud boys by a California liberal turned conservative. It's your loss, he's a gentle spirit and a clear thinker. All your huffing and puffing, denouncing people who you do not know the slightest bit about with hollow words like "fascist" that get flung around carelessly without regard for the actual definition of the word or for consistency of application, is nothing but a smokescreen to hide the intellectual insecurity that is the result of being trapped in a 'liberal' group think bubble. You know who else denounced their fellow citizens as evil and wouldn't allow anyone to challenge their beliefs? That's right: Fascists. Now, I'm not saying you are a fascist. I'm merely saying that you exhibit the same kind of bad behaviour that makes actual fascists bad. But comments like yours are free advertising to services like Pinepage because they illustrate so wonderfully how desperately needed a service like theirs is.
  - russdpale 5y ago
    LOL boy you sure CaLLeD ME ouT! Your opinion is worth less than dogshit on a shoe, an 11 minute propaganda piece isn't going to change that.
    - pure_simplicity 5y ago
      More smoke and mirrors, no fire. You can't argue facts, so you resort to ad hominem attacks. It feels too good to hate, so you can't give up on your negative views or allow them to be challenged. People come to hacker news for substantive constructive discussion. Passionate disagreement is fine, that's how we learn, but your posts lack any semblance of substance. By that, you've demonstrated that you are not part of this community, so please show yourself the door. Now's the right time to exit this discussion and keep quiet before some mod will do it for you.
      - russdpale 5y ago
        The moment you equated blm/antifa and fascism is the moment you showed yourself as someone who is not serious, and thus absolutely not worth my time. You can keep pretending you are serious, but that doesn't make you so. Ultimately, words don't matter to you. There is no discussion to be had with someone who is as disingenuous as you are.

russdpale 5y ago

Sorry, but your sympathizing with fascists is disgusting. They have no place in our society. I'm not watching your video or even wasting any more time with you.

pinepage 5y ago
"They have no place in our society". Who are they? Concretely! And by "our society", do you mean your society? Can we be allowed in? On what terms? What if you're the one not allowed in? Should we close your twitter, facebook, youtube account. Maybe we should go after your bank account, insurance, and your job so that you can't feed yourself or your family? This have happend to many people who just said something wrong on social media. This is the kind of thing you are advocating, and it is frankly disgusting.
- russdpale 5y ago
  Who are they? You know the answer to this question, you just don't care. Or you care more about enabling the grift and hate then you do about any sort of truth or free speech.
pure_simplicity 5y ago
Just to be clear, I'm gonna call you out now because you falsely accuse me of being a fascist sympathiser: russdpale is so uncertain in his beliefs that he cannot allow himself to even look at an 11 minute historical analysis of the proud boys by a California liberal turned conservative. It's your loss, he's a gentle spirit and a clear thinker. All your huffing and puffing, denouncing people who you do not know the slightest bit about with hollow words like "fascist" that get flung around carelessly without regard for the actual definition of the word or for consistency of application, is nothing but a smokescreen to hide the intellectual insecurity that is the result of being trapped in a 'liberal' group think bubble. You know who else denounced their fellow citizens as evil and wouldn't allow anyone to challenge their beliefs? That's right: Fascists. Now, I'm not saying you are a fascist. I'm merely saying that you exhibit the same kind of bad behaviour that makes actual fascists bad. But comments like yours are free advertising to services like Pinepage because they illustrate so wonderfully how desperately needed a service like theirs is.
- russdpale 5y ago
  LOL boy you sure CaLLeD ME ouT! Your opinion is worth less than dogshit on a shoe, an 11 minute propaganda piece isn't going to change that.
  - pure_simplicity 5y ago
    More smoke and mirrors, no fire. You can't argue facts, so you resort to ad hominem attacks. It feels too good to hate, so you can't give up on your negative views or allow them to be challenged. People come to hacker news for substantive constructive discussion. Passionate disagreement is fine, that's how we learn, but your posts lack any semblance of substance. By that, you've demonstrated that you are not part of this community, so please show yourself the door. Now's the right time to exit this discussion and keep quiet before some mod will do it for you.
    - russdpale 5y ago
      The moment you equated blm/antifa and fascism is the moment you showed yourself as someone who is not serious, and thus absolutely not worth my time. You can keep pretending you are serious, but that doesn't make you so. Ultimately, words don't matter to you. There is no discussion to be had with someone who is as disingenuous as you are.