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“Deleted all comments” is click bait IMO. This is a YouTube video, so the choice is either to allow commenting, or disable the comment section with all existing

“Deleted all comments” is click bait IMO. This is a YouTube video, so the choice is either to allow commenting, or disable the comment section with all existing comments with it. The title reads to me to imply MS is doing some kind of censoring. Yeah that is one of the result of what they’ve done, and that might be the main intention, but heavily implying this in the title without evidence is bad journalism.

robbedpeter 5y ago
There are two possibilities, and the following isn't a valid choice, so... "Microsoft disables comments because of overwhelmingly positive reception of Windows 11!" They don't want to deal with criticism and likely consider everything a sunk cost, so it is what it is and nothing will change.
- pacifika 5y ago
  It’s just not the case that the decision of disabling comments only happens for one possibility.
  - the-dude 5y ago
    Sure, maybe they just want to conserve the energy and thus CO2, for a better planet.
the_biot 5y ago
Actually, that's not true. I entered a mildly critical comment on a YouTube video the other day, very spot on if I do say so. It immediately got a bunch of upvotes, then that stopped completely. My comment was on top still, but that's just how YouTube displays your own comments. But when checking the video without logging in to YouTube, my comment was gone. So it looks like comments can be quietly deleted without the commenter even knowing it. THAT is censorship.
- drran 5y ago
  This is so-called "hell ban", "shadow ban", "ghost commenting" and it is heavily used by Hacker News admins here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_banning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_banning
  - lloydatkinson 5y ago
    Seems about right for HN mods
    - valtism 5y ago
      And thank god for that. This community is definitely held together by the hard work and judicial moderation of those few.
      - lloydatkinson 5y ago
        If you count indiscriminate censorship and bias a good thing then I suppose
        TheAdamAndChe 5y ago
        The censorship isn't indiscriminate, it actually discriminates against and suppresses users who trend towards flamebait. Without careful moderation, this site would quickly turn into a worse version of Reddit.
freebuju 5y ago
It's kind of funny. I recall watching the recent Apple developer conference live on Youtube and the comments section had been turned off. What are these giant tech companies afraid of?
- Majestic121 5y ago
  Comment sections on youtube are usually at best useless, and at worst very toxic. I would disable them as well, not because of 'being afraid of anything' but because it's a net loss to have them enabled, and nothing of value is lost if they are disabled.
  - freebuju 5y ago
    Well that's just your own personal opinion. I consider real time audience feedback to hold some intrinsic value to the live presentation. The fact that you think that enabling comments would result in a net loss means that at the very least there is something to be afraid of.
    - uranusjr 5y ago
      Are you confusing live chats to comments? My post (and your parent post) was about the comment section, which is not real-time. You can’t comment under a live event, only in its recording after the event has finished. The live chat section (appearing next to the video in the desktop web UI, not under) is what’s going real-time.
      - freebuju 5y ago
        Ah yes, sorry about that. Had a brain fart moment. I actually meant the chat section on the right was disabled during the live conference. Though, after any ordinary live stream has ended the chats usually are retained as chat history or comments if you will.
- dolmen 5y ago
  Notice that vaccine companies don't make videos at all.
steffanA 5y ago
Agreed. Deleting comments and disabling comments are two entirely different things. Title should read "Microsoft disables comments under heavily criticized Windows 11 upgrade video" Clickbait.

robbedpeter 5y ago

There are two possibilities, and the following isn't a valid choice, so... "Microsoft disables comments because of overwhelmingly positive reception of Windows 11!" They don't want to deal with criticism and likely consider everything a sunk cost, so it is what it is and nothing will change.

pacifika 5y ago
It’s just not the case that the decision of disabling comments only happens for one possibility.
- the-dude 5y ago
  Sure, maybe they just want to conserve the energy and thus CO2, for a better planet.

the_biot 5y ago

Actually, that's not true. I entered a mildly critical comment on a YouTube video the other day, very spot on if I do say so. It immediately got a bunch of upvotes, then that stopped completely. My comment was on top still, but that's just how YouTube displays your own comments. But when checking the video without logging in to YouTube, my comment was gone. So it looks like comments can be quietly deleted without the commenter even knowing it. THAT is censorship.

drran 5y ago
This is so-called "hell ban", "shadow ban", "ghost commenting" and it is heavily used by Hacker News admins here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_banning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_banning
- lloydatkinson 5y ago
  Seems about right for HN mods
  - valtism 5y ago
    And thank god for that. This community is definitely held together by the hard work and judicial moderation of those few.
    - lloydatkinson 5y ago
      If you count indiscriminate censorship and bias a good thing then I suppose
      - TheAdamAndChe 5y ago
        The censorship isn't indiscriminate, it actually discriminates against and suppresses users who trend towards flamebait. Without careful moderation, this site would quickly turn into a worse version of Reddit.

freebuju 5y ago

It's kind of funny. I recall watching the recent Apple developer conference live on Youtube and the comments section had been turned off. What are these giant tech companies afraid of?

Majestic121 5y ago
Comment sections on youtube are usually at best useless, and at worst very toxic. I would disable them as well, not because of 'being afraid of anything' but because it's a net loss to have them enabled, and nothing of value is lost if they are disabled.
- freebuju 5y ago
  Well that's just your own personal opinion. I consider real time audience feedback to hold some intrinsic value to the live presentation. The fact that you think that enabling comments would result in a net loss means that at the very least there is something to be afraid of.
  - uranusjr 5y ago
    Are you confusing live chats to comments? My post (and your parent post) was about the comment section, which is not real-time. You can’t comment under a live event, only in its recording after the event has finished. The live chat section (appearing next to the video in the desktop web UI, not under) is what’s going real-time.
    - freebuju 5y ago
      Ah yes, sorry about that. Had a brain fart moment. I actually meant the chat section on the right was disabled during the live conference. Though, after any ordinary live stream has ended the chats usually are retained as chat history or comments if you will.
dolmen 5y ago
Notice that vaccine companies don't make videos at all.

steffanA 5y ago

Agreed. Deleting comments and disabling comments are two entirely different things. Title should read "Microsoft disables comments under heavily criticized Windows 11 upgrade video" Clickbait.