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Wrong? The most popular languages are Javascript and Python...

by neolog 5y ago

sarnowski 5y ago
By which metric? TIOBE paints a different picture where also Python and JS are high but not exclusively. https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/ https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
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- TJSomething 5y ago
  As TIOBE uses averaged, relative search engine hits for "[programming language name] programming" as its source, it's a significantly lagging indicator, since it counts all pages on the internet equally, regardless of their age. I'm also unsure of the precision of the search "C programming". I suspect that it's catching "C++" in some search engines. Stack Overflow's annual survey puts JavaScript, SQL, and Python at the top, with C at 12th [0]. RedMonk's Top 20 puts JavaScript, Python, and Java at the top, with C in 10th [1]. ITJobsWatch puts JavaScript, SQL, and C# at top, with C at 9th [2]. Dice puts SQL, Java, and Python as its top 3, with C not even ranking in their top 12 [3]. All of those put JavaScript, Java, and Python in the top 5. [0] https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2021#most-popular-technologies-language https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2021#most-popular-... [1] https://redmonk.com/kfitzpatrick/2021/03/02/redmonk-top-20-languages-over-time-january-2021/ https://redmonk.com/kfitzpatrick/2021/03/02/redmonk-top-20-l... [2] https://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/default.aspx?ql=&ll=&id=900&p=6&e=5&page=1&sortby=12&orderby=0 https://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/default.aspx?ql=&ll=&id=900&p=... [3] https://insights.dice.com/2021/01/05/top-12-programming-languages-employers-want-early-2021/ https://insights.dice.com/2021/01/05/top-12-programming-lang...
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willbudd 5y ago
But nobody (as far as I know) who has used TypeScript wants to go back to vanilla JavaScript. I find that fairly telling.
- joelbluminator 5y ago
  Google "the problem with typescript", there are people who don't like it. I don't know how many they are but saying "no one" is silly.
- jaredcwhite 5y ago
  You need to get out more. =)
- pjmlp 5y ago
  I only use TypeScript on projects written from scratch for TypeScript, like Angular. On personal projects I only want to deal with builtin browser technologies, there is no npm, webpack, tsc, yarn, whatever, just plain <script/> tags.
- richeyryan 5y ago
  I broadly prefer JavaScript to TypeScript. TypeScript has it's place and is certainly useful in some scenarios (it's union type is so powerful) but I don't think I'd ever plan on coding exclusively in it. I've written code in OCaml and Rust too so I know what a good type system can do. I think at least for UI work there is a lot of space for dynamic plumbing together of well typed components. Components in this case meaning actual UI components as well as modules of business logic or state management.
- Lapsa 5y ago
  I have never wanted to go TypeScript in first place.

Wrong? The most popular languages are Javascript and Python...

by neolog 5y ago

Wrong? The most popular languages are Javascript and Python...

By which metric? TIOBE paints a different picture where also Python and JS are high but not exclusively. https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/ https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/

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TJSomething 5y ago
As TIOBE uses averaged, relative search engine hits for "[programming language name] programming" as its source, it's a significantly lagging indicator, since it counts all pages on the internet equally, regardless of their age. I'm also unsure of the precision of the search "C programming". I suspect that it's catching "C++" in some search engines. Stack Overflow's annual survey puts JavaScript, SQL, and Python at the top, with C at 12th [0]. RedMonk's Top 20 puts JavaScript, Python, and Java at the top, with C in 10th [1]. ITJobsWatch puts JavaScript, SQL, and C# at top, with C at 9th [2]. Dice puts SQL, Java, and Python as its top 3, with C not even ranking in their top 12 [3]. All of those put JavaScript, Java, and Python in the top 5. [0] https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2021#most-popular-technologies-language https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2021#most-popular-... [1] https://redmonk.com/kfitzpatrick/2021/03/02/redmonk-top-20-languages-over-time-january-2021/ https://redmonk.com/kfitzpatrick/2021/03/02/redmonk-top-20-l... [2] https://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/default.aspx?ql=&ll=&id=900&p=6&e=5&page=1&sortby=12&orderby=0 https://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/default.aspx?ql=&ll=&id=900&p=... [3] https://insights.dice.com/2021/01/05/top-12-programming-languages-employers-want-early-2021/ https://insights.dice.com/2021/01/05/top-12-programming-lang...
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willbudd 5y ago

But nobody (as far as I know) who has used TypeScript wants to go back to vanilla JavaScript. I find that fairly telling.

joelbluminator 5y ago
Google "the problem with typescript", there are people who don't like it. I don't know how many they are but saying "no one" is silly.
jaredcwhite 5y ago
You need to get out more. =)
pjmlp 5y ago
I only use TypeScript on projects written from scratch for TypeScript, like Angular. On personal projects I only want to deal with builtin browser technologies, there is no npm, webpack, tsc, yarn, whatever, just plain <script/> tags.
richeyryan 5y ago
I broadly prefer JavaScript to TypeScript. TypeScript has it's place and is certainly useful in some scenarios (it's union type is so powerful) but I don't think I'd ever plan on coding exclusively in it. I've written code in OCaml and Rust too so I know what a good type system can do. I think at least for UI work there is a lot of space for dynamic plumbing together of well typed components. Components in this case meaning actual UI components as well as modules of business logic or state management.
Lapsa 5y ago
I have never wanted to go TypeScript in first place.