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> I think most people would be very happy with 15-20KWh/day '640K of memory should be enough for anybody.' - Bill Gates (apocryphal, apparently he never said t

> I think most people would be very happy with 15-20KWh/day '640K of memory should be enough for anybody.' - Bill Gates (apocryphal, apparently he never said this) When the Jones' are using their energy-sucking teleporter to travel instantly to work and taking summer vacations to the Moon, when their kitchen is fitted with exotic self-cleaning metamaterials and they tolerate no natural discomfort in their lives, I would think that their neighbors would not be caught dead one step behind them. You can achieve happiness with less - but you can achieve happiness today with much less than your number as well, and most people measure themselves against their neighbors, not some theoretical absolute level of energy usage. Energy consumption in the developed world tends to increase.

cryptonector 5y ago
U.S. consumption has been around 22KWh/day/capita for a long time. The rest of the world is much lower. The 22KWh/day/capita includes gasoline and diesel. I don't see Americans wanting to consume 30KWh/day for current uses. Do you?
- endominus 5y ago
  Source? According to OurWorldInData[0] the number is closer to 220 kWH/capita/day, although it does show the usage as stable or even declining over the last decade. According to the US Energy Information Administration[1] total energy usage seems to have increased. That particular chart stops at 2009, but this tool[2] using their data shows 1. stable usage since ~2007 and 2. roughly 10% increase since 1995, and a 3-fold increase since the start of the data in 1950. By a long time, did you mean since 2007? [0]: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/per-capita-energy-use?tab=chart&country=~USA https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/per-capita-energy-use?tab... [1]: https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=10 https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=10 [2]: http://physics.bu.edu/~duffy/HTML5/climate_change_historical_energy.html http://physics.bu.edu/~duffy/HTML5/climate_change_historical...
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cryptonector 5y ago

U.S. consumption has been around 22KWh/day/capita for a long time. The rest of the world is much lower. The 22KWh/day/capita includes gasoline and diesel. I don't see Americans wanting to consume 30KWh/day for current uses. Do you?

endominus 5y ago
Source? According to OurWorldInData[0] the number is closer to 220 kWH/capita/day, although it does show the usage as stable or even declining over the last decade. According to the US Energy Information Administration[1] total energy usage seems to have increased. That particular chart stops at 2009, but this tool[2] using their data shows 1. stable usage since ~2007 and 2. roughly 10% increase since 1995, and a 3-fold increase since the start of the data in 1950. By a long time, did you mean since 2007? [0]: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/per-capita-energy-use?tab=chart&country=~USA https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/per-capita-energy-use?tab... [1]: https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=10 https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=10 [2]: http://physics.bu.edu/~duffy/HTML5/climate_change_historical_energy.html http://physics.bu.edu/~duffy/HTML5/climate_change_historical...
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