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> if businesses start to pretend that I owe them something for the privilege of spending money there, I just won't do it. I've started doing exactly the opposi

> if businesses start to pretend that I owe them something for the privilege of spending money there, I just won't do it. I've started doing exactly the opposite. Almost every place I spend my money these days caters to reasonable people and quickly kicks out most of the riffraff. I don't want to go to a business that caters to all customers, because being surrounded by annoying people is miserable. I want to spend my time in an enjoyable ambiance. "Take all comers" places typically aren't that. Doubly so for any place that serves alcohol.

dkdk8283 5y ago
I support businesses with principles: what you cited is materially different. Subjective criteria for annoying people.
- throwawaygh 5y ago
  Yeah. I'm not looking for a religion. I'm just looking for a good relaxing time. Last thing I want is to deal with some mouth breather don’t tread on my rant while trying to enjoy a cocktail.
version_five 5y ago
I agree with everything you say. But to me, it's places that cater to "riff raff" that I associate with carding for a vaccine pass or whatever. Same as I would never go to a bar that would search my bag, or fly with a discount carrier that treated me like a cow being herded around. The fact that I only go to places that treat me respectfully and as an adult is exactly why I would not go to a place that makes me go though a bunch if hygiene theatre before I can pay them. To me, covid has made lots of businesses reinvent themselves under the economy airline model where customers are stuck with them and have to do what they say, and all service inadequacies are "for your safety". If that's why makes you feel better, none of my business, but it's not for me.
- throwawaygh 5y ago
  Unfortunately, even flying business won't spare us from the "no tread on me" man-child espousing on his manifesto on security theatre in the airport security line. I'm happy to pay extra for an environment without that sort of exhausting neck beard bullshit polluting the ambiance. Avoiding exactly that crowd is why I TSA PreCheck and pay for lounge access.
tajustice1 5y ago
Your thinly veiled racism is on full display. ID laws are inherently racist, and have been leveraged by white supremacists for decades to keep POC from enjoying the rights and privileges they're guaranteed under the law. Businesses requiring vaccination IDs are de facto discriminating against POCs and other minorities because POCs and minorities are less likely to have ID, and less likely to be vaccinated.

dkdk8283 5y ago

I support businesses with principles: what you cited is materially different. Subjective criteria for annoying people.

throwawaygh 5y ago
Yeah. I'm not looking for a religion. I'm just looking for a good relaxing time. Last thing I want is to deal with some mouth breather don’t tread on my rant while trying to enjoy a cocktail.

version_five 5y ago

I agree with everything you say. But to me, it's places that cater to "riff raff" that I associate with carding for a vaccine pass or whatever. Same as I would never go to a bar that would search my bag, or fly with a discount carrier that treated me like a cow being herded around. The fact that I only go to places that treat me respectfully and as an adult is exactly why I would not go to a place that makes me go though a bunch if hygiene theatre before I can pay them. To me, covid has made lots of businesses reinvent themselves under the economy airline model where customers are stuck with them and have to do what they say, and all service inadequacies are "for your safety". If that's why makes you feel better, none of my business, but it's not for me.

throwawaygh 5y ago
Unfortunately, even flying business won't spare us from the "no tread on me" man-child espousing on his manifesto on security theatre in the airport security line. I'm happy to pay extra for an environment without that sort of exhausting neck beard bullshit polluting the ambiance. Avoiding exactly that crowd is why I TSA PreCheck and pay for lounge access.

tajustice1 5y ago

Your thinly veiled racism is on full display. ID laws are inherently racist, and have been leveraged by white supremacists for decades to keep POC from enjoying the rights and privileges they're guaranteed under the law. Businesses requiring vaccination IDs are de facto discriminating against POCs and other minorities because POCs and minorities are less likely to have ID, and less likely to be vaccinated.