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Home schooling your children too? School districts requiring vaccination records for all sorts of things. What invasion of privacy. It’s like they do it to prot

by ctvo 5y ago

Home schooling your children too? School districts requiring vaccination records for all sorts of things. What invasion of privacy. It’s like they do it to protect other children.

version_five 5y ago
Not sure I see the equivalence between showing my kids have their childhood vaccines before they go to school and having to flash a vaccine pass every time I go to the gym or to eat. Honestly I would rather it was mandated by government and then assumed (not that I think that is compatible with western rights) than having to show this kind of information on request to businesses as I go about my day. Most people here would agree with that for most things - people get bent out of shape about advertising cookies. But somehow covid has made everyone hysterical and no indignity can be too much in the name of preaching and checking for covid orthodoxy. I find it really weird.
- mindslight 5y ago
  ID requirements are draconian, but they are a straightforward reaction to the anti-vax reality-denying hysteria. As a libertarian, this whole saga has been a double punch. When people throw out "freedom" as a justification for their terrible (and ultimately herd-following) decisions, it maligns and undermines the concept itself. And it lets the authoritarians step in and take credit for what should have been common sense. Drawing a parallel with a different topic - while I believe that drugs shouldn't be illegal, that doesn't mean I would support my friends being junkies. And I certainly wouldn't encourage people to become junkies just to spite the current unjust laws.
- ctvo 5y ago
  > Most people here would agree with that for most things - people get bent out of shape about advertising cookies. But somehow covid has made everyone hysterical and no indignity can be too much in the name of preaching and checking for covid orthodoxy. I find it really weird. It's actually not that weird. Tracking cookies haven't caused 600,000 deaths and countless hospitalization. The "indignity" of showing your vaccine card, like the indignity of showing your ID to get into a bar or buy alcohol? I originally brought up home schooling because people seemed shocked anyone can ask for vaccination records. I'm bringing up ID here because you seem shocked that businesses ask for additional records.

by ctvo 5y ago

Home schooling your children too? School districts requiring vaccination records for all sorts of things. What invasion of privacy. It’s like they do it to protect other children.

version_five 5y ago

Not sure I see the equivalence between showing my kids have their childhood vaccines before they go to school and having to flash a vaccine pass every time I go to the gym or to eat. Honestly I would rather it was mandated by government and then assumed (not that I think that is compatible with western rights) than having to show this kind of information on request to businesses as I go about my day. Most people here would agree with that for most things - people get bent out of shape about advertising cookies. But somehow covid has made everyone hysterical and no indignity can be too much in the name of preaching and checking for covid orthodoxy. I find it really weird.

mindslight 5y ago
ID requirements are draconian, but they are a straightforward reaction to the anti-vax reality-denying hysteria. As a libertarian, this whole saga has been a double punch. When people throw out "freedom" as a justification for their terrible (and ultimately herd-following) decisions, it maligns and undermines the concept itself. And it lets the authoritarians step in and take credit for what should have been common sense. Drawing a parallel with a different topic - while I believe that drugs shouldn't be illegal, that doesn't mean I would support my friends being junkies. And I certainly wouldn't encourage people to become junkies just to spite the current unjust laws.
ctvo 5y ago
> Most people here would agree with that for most things - people get bent out of shape about advertising cookies. But somehow covid has made everyone hysterical and no indignity can be too much in the name of preaching and checking for covid orthodoxy. I find it really weird. It's actually not that weird. Tracking cookies haven't caused 600,000 deaths and countless hospitalization. The "indignity" of showing your vaccine card, like the indignity of showing your ID to get into a bar or buy alcohol? I originally brought up home schooling because people seemed shocked anyone can ask for vaccination records. I'm bringing up ID here because you seem shocked that businesses ask for additional records.