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Was/were the leadership(s) that is blamed for this catastrophe Muslim?

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huitzitziltzin 5y ago
No. The “analysis” above is anti-muslim nonsense. The main roles in the government of Lebanon are split among Sunni Muslims, Shia Muslims and Christians. The president is Christian. The prime minister and speaker of parliament are muslim (one Shia and the other Sunni). I am not saying this was a good system - quite obviously it has not worked well. But to blame all of this on Muslims is nonsense. Also important: some features of Lebanese government are invariant to demographic changes bc the government has declined to conduct a new census. For reference: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Lebanon https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Lebanon
- pram 5y ago
  The government of the Republic doesn’t actually govern swathes of the nation, which are essentially under a parallel Shia Muslim government (Hezbollah) Your “analysis” kinda leaves out that salient fact
- 0x737368 5y ago
  I don't agree with the idea that a country being Christian means it'll be successful and it being Muslim meaning it'll be a disaster, but surely you can't just disregard demographic changes as "anti-Muslim nonsense". I too categorically don't agree with blaming it on Muslims, I do however reserve judgement about blaming it on Islam - it could have had an effect or it could not.
  - u801e 5y ago
    I find it curious that many of the comments here are talking about demographic changes and religion while signaling out Muslims and/or Islam as one of the primary causes. There are plenty of other countries in the world that have economic problems where the Muslim population is insignificant.
    - 0x737368 5y ago
      > There are plenty of other countries in the world that have economic problems where the Muslim population is insignificant. Absolutely true. I still don't think the hypothesis should be rejected just on the grounds of it sounding Islamophobic, it should be rejected on the grounds of it being incorrect.
    - yetihehe 5y ago
      As I see it, it's not about $religion but religious orthodoxy. Primary cause would be "too much religion".
    - joelbluminator 5y ago
      Most of them have common failings though: corruption, depression of women, lack of freedom of speech, resistance for democratic institutions etc etc. It could be argued that Islam, especially the unmoderate kind, contributes to these failings. In fact most Orthodox religions do.

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No. The “analysis” above is anti-muslim nonsense. The main roles in the government of Lebanon are split among Sunni Muslims, Shia Muslims and Christians. The president is Christian. The prime minister and speaker of parliament are muslim (one Shia and the other Sunni). I am not saying this was a good system - quite obviously it has not worked well. But to blame all of this on Muslims is nonsense. Also important: some features of Lebanese government are invariant to demographic changes bc the government has declined to conduct a new census. For reference: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Lebanon https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Lebanon

pram 5y ago
The government of the Republic doesn’t actually govern swathes of the nation, which are essentially under a parallel Shia Muslim government (Hezbollah) Your “analysis” kinda leaves out that salient fact
0x737368 5y ago
I don't agree with the idea that a country being Christian means it'll be successful and it being Muslim meaning it'll be a disaster, but surely you can't just disregard demographic changes as "anti-Muslim nonsense". I too categorically don't agree with blaming it on Muslims, I do however reserve judgement about blaming it on Islam - it could have had an effect or it could not.
- u801e 5y ago
  I find it curious that many of the comments here are talking about demographic changes and religion while signaling out Muslims and/or Islam as one of the primary causes. There are plenty of other countries in the world that have economic problems where the Muslim population is insignificant.
  - 0x737368 5y ago
    > There are plenty of other countries in the world that have economic problems where the Muslim population is insignificant. Absolutely true. I still don't think the hypothesis should be rejected just on the grounds of it sounding Islamophobic, it should be rejected on the grounds of it being incorrect.
  - yetihehe 5y ago
    As I see it, it's not about $religion but religious orthodoxy. Primary cause would be "too much religion".
  - joelbluminator 5y ago
    Most of them have common failings though: corruption, depression of women, lack of freedom of speech, resistance for democratic institutions etc etc. It could be argued that Islam, especially the unmoderate kind, contributes to these failings. In fact most Orthodox religions do.