That's pretty easy for some alpha male security analyst to say. Setting clear goals and boundaries requires discipline on the part of both developers and manag

That's pretty easy for some alpha male security analyst to say. Setting clear goals and boundaries requires discipline on the part of both developers and managers. It's not slacking off or lack of commitment unless you're hiring unmotivated hacks and leftovers. But even then, maybe you're overpaying for low quality and could hire more for less. Either way overtime is mostly avoidable. Sure, sometimes the deadline takes on a life of it's own and you need to set your foot down and say "we promised, so we will deliver. Let's do a post-mortem to ensure it doesn't happen again, but right now we need to ship".