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The bulge is where the cable has been repeatedly knocked or compressed into an extreme angle. Of course that will happen at the strain relief. It happens on Ama

by hughrr 5y ago

The bulge is where the cable has been repeatedly knocked or compressed into an extreme angle. Of course that will happen at the strain relief. It happens on Amazon Basics lightning cables, Lenovo laptop power supplies, anything if you exceed the min bend radius of the cable. Regarding dangling it over the edge of the table, you're pulling it down. That's one of the problems. It should lay flat on the table for a few inches at least and then drop. I'm sitting here with my M1 MBA on charge at the moment. Is it strained? Hell no: https://imgur.com/a/lXGpj4E https://imgur.com/a/lXGpj4E

BugsJustFindMe 5y ago
> Regarding dangling it over the edge of the table, you're pulling it down. That's one of the problems. It should lay flat on the table for a few inches at least and then drop. And if you suspend it in zero gravity and never touch it then it will last forever. Being able to baby something into lasting doesn't make the product durable. The fact remains that Apple's cables are demonstrably and notably more prone to fraying than every other manufacturer's cables even when the same people use them in the same way.
- hughrr 5y ago
  The old mantra holds: treat it nice or pay twice.
  - BugsJustFindMe 5y ago
    > The old mantra holds: treat it nice or pay twice. I mean, sure, ok, but there's another mantra that goes "nobody likes someone who blames users for product quality that is significantly worse than from every other manufacturer so that when users use the product normally without aggression toward the product this product fails while the others do not." I mean it really seems like you've come down on the side that it's totally ok that even simple gravity on just the cable itself puts too much unrelieved strain on a cable that for decades cost $100 or more to replace because it was integrated into the charging brick. And you argue that that's a problem with the user instead of grossly inadequate strain relief. We've staked out our sides. Let's agree to disagree.
    - hughrr 5y ago
      I'm going to leave it at that I used to treat my stuff like shit and blamed the manufacturer, mostly IBM and Lenovo back then, when it broke. Then I grew up. Life got easier and cheaper.
  - simonlc 5y ago
    I don't know how you can defend these crappy products. I don't want to baby a cable, and yet I have to act like a crazy person when ever someone touches my "precious" cable. Any other usb cable on my desk I can twist and bend at my heart's content, and I know they'll outlast the spec they were designed for. The only reason I use wireless charging now is because it's cheaper and easier than using broken cables. Sadly the one in my car looks like the terminator's arm when he cuts off his arm skin.
  - SilverRed 5y ago
    No it doesn't, you can buy any random cheap cable in ebay any they are mostly indestructible and last years while apple cables require extreme care to last and even then they seem to turn in to a gummy substance that basically falls apart.
7952 5y ago
Surely the whole point of a strain relief is to prevent those kind of angles. Which other cables seem to do more effectively.

by hughrr 5y ago

BugsJustFindMe 5y ago

> Regarding dangling it over the edge of the table, you're pulling it down. That's one of the problems. It should lay flat on the table for a few inches at least and then drop. And if you suspend it in zero gravity and never touch it then it will last forever. Being able to baby something into lasting doesn't make the product durable. The fact remains that Apple's cables are demonstrably and notably more prone to fraying than every other manufacturer's cables even when the same people use them in the same way.

hughrr 5y ago
The old mantra holds: treat it nice or pay twice.
- BugsJustFindMe 5y ago
  > The old mantra holds: treat it nice or pay twice. I mean, sure, ok, but there's another mantra that goes "nobody likes someone who blames users for product quality that is significantly worse than from every other manufacturer so that when users use the product normally without aggression toward the product this product fails while the others do not." I mean it really seems like you've come down on the side that it's totally ok that even simple gravity on just the cable itself puts too much unrelieved strain on a cable that for decades cost $100 or more to replace because it was integrated into the charging brick. And you argue that that's a problem with the user instead of grossly inadequate strain relief. We've staked out our sides. Let's agree to disagree.
  - hughrr 5y ago
    I'm going to leave it at that I used to treat my stuff like shit and blamed the manufacturer, mostly IBM and Lenovo back then, when it broke. Then I grew up. Life got easier and cheaper.
- simonlc 5y ago
  I don't know how you can defend these crappy products. I don't want to baby a cable, and yet I have to act like a crazy person when ever someone touches my "precious" cable. Any other usb cable on my desk I can twist and bend at my heart's content, and I know they'll outlast the spec they were designed for. The only reason I use wireless charging now is because it's cheaper and easier than using broken cables. Sadly the one in my car looks like the terminator's arm when he cuts off his arm skin.
- SilverRed 5y ago
  No it doesn't, you can buy any random cheap cable in ebay any they are mostly indestructible and last years while apple cables require extreme care to last and even then they seem to turn in to a gummy substance that basically falls apart.

7952 5y ago

Surely the whole point of a strain relief is to prevent those kind of angles. Which other cables seem to do more effectively.