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No it doesn't put lives at risk. Everyone knows it's not actually full self driving. One of the following must be true: 1) Tesla FSD actually is L5 full self

No it doesn't put lives at risk. Everyone knows it's not actually full self driving. One of the following must be true: 1) Tesla FSD actually is L5 full self driving 2) Tesla FSD is just driver assist and everyone knows it 3) People are dying in Tesla crashes at a massive rate I doubt that it's 1 and I know it's not 3 because this would have been noticed immediately by the agencies that track this sort of thing and would be a huge news story. So it has to be 2. Nobody is actually stupid enough to be fooled by the name.

rvz 5y ago
> Everyone knows it's not actually full self driving. So "FSD" doesn't actually mean "Full Self Driving" then? So this is not deceptive advertising then by Tesla Inc.? I'm assuming that you also have known that FSD was also advertised as 'Full Level 5 Autonomy' by Tesla Inc. as well which was due for completion in 2020 or early 2021? [0] Where are the 'robotaxis' that was advertised and due for 2020 then? [0] So you are admitting that Tesla Inc. deliberately mislead its customers then? [0] https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-autonomous-driving-level-5-model-3-robotaxi https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-autonomous-driving-lev...
- fallingknife 5y ago
  Well then I guess you should ask for your money back. You have a reasonable case for a refund.
  - rvz 5y ago
    Maybe tell that to these people? [0] I think they want more than just a refund. [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/05/business/tesla-autopilot-lawsuits-safety.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/05/business/tesla-autopilot-...
bobsomers 5y ago
> No it doesn't put lives at risk. Everyone knows it's not actually full self driving. Most people I've talked to cannot accurately articulate the boundary of its operational capability, and there is a growing number of injured and dead "FSD" drivers that seem to have very muddied expecations of what "full self-driving" means.
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elihu 5y ago
Another option: Tesla FSD is just driver assist, and most people know that. Yet from time to time, people get into accidents either because they overestimate the abilities of FSD or because they don't react quickly enough when FSD puts them into an unsafe situation.

rvz 5y ago

> Everyone knows it's not actually full self driving. So "FSD" doesn't actually mean "Full Self Driving" then? So this is not deceptive advertising then by Tesla Inc.? I'm assuming that you also have known that FSD was also advertised as 'Full Level 5 Autonomy' by Tesla Inc. as well which was due for completion in 2020 or early 2021? [0] Where are the 'robotaxis' that was advertised and due for 2020 then? [0] So you are admitting that Tesla Inc. deliberately mislead its customers then? [0] https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-autonomous-driving-level-5-model-3-robotaxi https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-autonomous-driving-lev...

fallingknife 5y ago
Well then I guess you should ask for your money back. You have a reasonable case for a refund.
- rvz 5y ago
  Maybe tell that to these people? [0] I think they want more than just a refund. [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/05/business/tesla-autopilot-lawsuits-safety.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/05/business/tesla-autopilot-...

bobsomers 5y ago

> No it doesn't put lives at risk. Everyone knows it's not actually full self driving. Most people I've talked to cannot accurately articulate the boundary of its operational capability, and there is a growing number of injured and dead "FSD" drivers that seem to have very muddied expecations of what "full self-driving" means.

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elihu 5y ago

Another option: Tesla FSD is just driver assist, and most people know that. Yet from time to time, people get into accidents either because they overestimate the abilities of FSD or because they don't react quickly enough when FSD puts them into an unsafe situation.