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What about the lives that have been saved? Do those not count? Just this week a drunk driver passed out and the Tesla safely slowed down to a stop. What if that

What about the lives that have been saved? Do those not count? Just this week a drunk driver passed out and the Tesla safely slowed down to a stop. What if that guy was in an Audi and ran over a child while passed out?

rvz 5y ago
> Just this week a drunk driver passed out and the Tesla safely slowed down to a stop Maybe that 'driver' shouldn't be behind the wheel in the first place given that he was drunk? You have to knowingly get inside of the car and start it up all manually to use it. Does being drunk give a pass to everyone behind the wheel to do the same thing? You are still putting other drivers at risk regardless of the car that is driven, even especially what you are using is beta software. I wouldn't want to use such software that confuses the moon with a traffic light [0] [0] https://twitter.com/JordanTeslaTech/status/1418413307862585344 https://twitter.com/JordanTeslaTech/status/14184133078625853...
- outworlder 5y ago
  > Maybe that 'driver' shouldn't be behind the wheel in the first place That particular driver, no. What about a medical condition? The moon thing is funny but was that unsafe? There's also the truck that was carrying traffic lights. Edge cases. Humans make even worse decisions daily, nobody cares but people still die.
  - dragonwriter 5y ago
    > What about a medical condition? Yes, we deny people licenses for some of those, too. We test visual acuity. We test depth perception. We test actual driving ability, and we do it more frequently at ages when people are more likely to lose required facilities. We make laws against driving temporarily impaired for a variety of reasons which we can't test for in advance. And we take people's licenses away when they fail to drive correctly sufficiently, too. People absolutely do care about poor decisions and failures of capacity without a poor decision by humans.
jjeaff 5y ago
If it were an Audi, I assume the adaptive cruise control with stop and go or the collision avoidance system would have brought it to a stop as well.

rvz 5y ago

> Just this week a drunk driver passed out and the Tesla safely slowed down to a stop Maybe that 'driver' shouldn't be behind the wheel in the first place given that he was drunk? You have to knowingly get inside of the car and start it up all manually to use it. Does being drunk give a pass to everyone behind the wheel to do the same thing? You are still putting other drivers at risk regardless of the car that is driven, even especially what you are using is beta software. I wouldn't want to use such software that confuses the moon with a traffic light [0] [0] https://twitter.com/JordanTeslaTech/status/1418413307862585344 https://twitter.com/JordanTeslaTech/status/14184133078625853...

outworlder 5y ago
> Maybe that 'driver' shouldn't be behind the wheel in the first place That particular driver, no. What about a medical condition? The moon thing is funny but was that unsafe? There's also the truck that was carrying traffic lights. Edge cases. Humans make even worse decisions daily, nobody cares but people still die.
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  > What about a medical condition? Yes, we deny people licenses for some of those, too. We test visual acuity. We test depth perception. We test actual driving ability, and we do it more frequently at ages when people are more likely to lose required facilities. We make laws against driving temporarily impaired for a variety of reasons which we can't test for in advance. And we take people's licenses away when they fail to drive correctly sufficiently, too. People absolutely do care about poor decisions and failures of capacity without a poor decision by humans.

jjeaff 5y ago

If it were an Audi, I assume the adaptive cruise control with stop and go or the collision avoidance system would have brought it to a stop as well.