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You are confusing two different conversations. Your IT department are the ones that used the language "obsolete", because they likely knew that the laptop (whic

by shawnz 5y ago

You are confusing two different conversations. Your IT department are the ones that used the language "obsolete", because they likely knew that the laptop (which they provided) supported auto-sensing and therefore there was no need for them to provide you with a special cable to achieve a direct PC-to-PC ethernet connection. Whereas the parent comment probably only used the language "crossover" because they were trying to be explicit about the fact that they are talking about a direct PC-to-PC ethernet connection. Not because crossover wiring is actually necessary to make that configuration work. Furthermore, support for auto-sensing has nothing to do with the OS, or Microsoft.

1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago
First, I provided the cable. They were commenting on the idea of using a crossover cable, not a request for one. Second, you are guessing what the commenter meant by crossover cable. I think he meant crossover cable. There is nothing to suggest otherwise. Third, I never said auto-sensing had anything to do with the OS or Microsoft. I said the IT department loved Microsoft. You got confused and made a connection between the two. This thing with Microsoft Windows is that it encourages the user to upgrade their hardware. Whereas I prefer NetBSD as a personal OS, and it does no such thing. Not every computer I own has auto-sensing nor a particularly fast NIC. The questions I raised are 1. whether crossover cable still works (with both older and newer hardware) and 2. whether it is faster than alternatives. Is it slower. IME, no.
- shawnz 5y ago
  I am just trying to explain why your comment is grey. To be clear, there is no speed increase from using a crossover cable instead of a straight-through cable together with auto sensing.
  - 1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago
    But is it slower. I never said it was faster than using auto-sensing. I said it was faster (for me) than using a third computer or using Wifi. Plus you are (again) ignoring the situations where it's an older computer that does not have auto-sensing. True or false: Crossover cable is more versatile for direct data transfers and is not any slower than using auto-sensing. AFAICT, there is nothing wrong with crossover cable. If there was, methinks the parent commenter wouldn't be mentioning it on HN. I do not see grey because I use a text-only browser. It's all the same color (except italics), just how I like it. :)

by shawnz 5y ago

1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago

First, I provided the cable. They were commenting on the idea of using a crossover cable, not a request for one. Second, you are guessing what the commenter meant by crossover cable. I think he meant crossover cable. There is nothing to suggest otherwise. Third, I never said auto-sensing had anything to do with the OS or Microsoft. I said the IT department loved Microsoft. You got confused and made a connection between the two. This thing with Microsoft Windows is that it encourages the user to upgrade their hardware. Whereas I prefer NetBSD as a personal OS, and it does no such thing. Not every computer I own has auto-sensing nor a particularly fast NIC. The questions I raised are 1. whether crossover cable still works (with both older and newer hardware) and 2. whether it is faster than alternatives. Is it slower. IME, no.

shawnz 5y ago
I am just trying to explain why your comment is grey. To be clear, there is no speed increase from using a crossover cable instead of a straight-through cable together with auto sensing.
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago
  But is it slower. I never said it was faster than using auto-sensing. I said it was faster (for me) than using a third computer or using Wifi. Plus you are (again) ignoring the situations where it's an older computer that does not have auto-sensing. True or false: Crossover cable is more versatile for direct data transfers and is not any slower than using auto-sensing. AFAICT, there is nothing wrong with crossover cable. If there was, methinks the parent commenter wouldn't be mentioning it on HN. I do not see grey because I use a text-only browser. It's all the same color (except italics), just how I like it. :)