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You're both wrong. There won't be much motion at all because drowning people don't splash.

lmilcin 5y ago
Actually, I am a skipper and because of that I had to go through quite thorough training of which large part is focused on saving people in Man Over Board situation. I estimate full 1/3rd of entire training was devoted exclusively to getting a person back on the ship if they happened to fall into water while underway. It is said "people do not splash" because if you are focused on looking for flailing hands and splashing water and shouts for help then your are missing most people that drown. But it doesn't mean people don't shout and don't flail. They do. Just not most of the time.
- bryanrasmussen 5y ago
  >It is said "people do not splash" because if you are focused on looking for flailing hands and splashing water and shouts for help conclusion: The drowning person is a project manager.
  - dylan604 5y ago
    I'm definitely not sacrificing my gear for a PM. They can send an email requesting a meeting about being saved, and then get upset that nobody accepted the meeting
dylan604 5y ago
Depends on which stage of drowning they are in. If they've just fallen in, they might still be flailing away. If they've been flailing for a minute already, then, yeah, thy might be tired. Plus, it's hard to shout when your lungs are full of water. I can't do it with a mouthful of water let alone lungs. My ventriloquist dummy on the other hand won't shut up while I'm drinking water.
iamthepieman 5y ago
someone in the process of drowning, as in exhaustion and/or panic causing ineffective motions that do not get the head far enough above water to take an adequate breath won't be able to splash or yell. Someone who is not exhausted and not technically drowning yet but who will be if left for another 10,15,60 or whatever minutes does have the ability to yell and splash.
- dylan604 5y ago
  Isn't someone not yet drowning but will be if left for another 60 minutes just someone swimming in a pool?
Wistar 5y ago
"Directly behind them, not 10 feet away, their 9-year-old daughter was drowning… How did this captain know—from 50 feet away—what the father couldn’t recognize from just 10? Drowning is not the violent, splashing call for help that most people expect. The captain was trained to recognize drowning by experts and years of experience. The father, on the other hand, had learned what drowning looks like by watching television." 2013 Slate article: https://slate.com/technology/2013/06/rescuing-drowning-children-how-to-know-when-someone-is-in-trouble-in-the-water.html https://slate.com/technology/2013/06/rescuing-drowning-child...

Actually, I am a skipper and because of that I had to go through quite thorough training of which large part is focused on saving people in Man Over Board situation. I estimate full 1/3rd of entire training was devoted exclusively to getting a person back on the ship if they happened to fall into water while underway. It is said "people do not splash" because if you are focused on looking for flailing hands and splashing water and shouts for help then your are missing most people that drown. But it doesn't mean people don't shout and don't flail. They do. Just not most of the time.

bryanrasmussen 5y ago
>It is said "people do not splash" because if you are focused on looking for flailing hands and splashing water and shouts for help conclusion: The drowning person is a project manager.
- dylan604 5y ago
  I'm definitely not sacrificing my gear for a PM. They can send an email requesting a meeting about being saved, and then get upset that nobody accepted the meeting

dylan604 5y ago

Depends on which stage of drowning they are in. If they've just fallen in, they might still be flailing away. If they've been flailing for a minute already, then, yeah, thy might be tired. Plus, it's hard to shout when your lungs are full of water. I can't do it with a mouthful of water let alone lungs. My ventriloquist dummy on the other hand won't shut up while I'm drinking water.

iamthepieman 5y ago

someone in the process of drowning, as in exhaustion and/or panic causing ineffective motions that do not get the head far enough above water to take an adequate breath won't be able to splash or yell. Someone who is not exhausted and not technically drowning yet but who will be if left for another 10,15,60 or whatever minutes does have the ability to yell and splash.

dylan604 5y ago
Isn't someone not yet drowning but will be if left for another 60 minutes just someone swimming in a pool?

Wistar 5y ago

"Directly behind them, not 10 feet away, their 9-year-old daughter was drowning… How did this captain know—from 50 feet away—what the father couldn’t recognize from just 10? Drowning is not the violent, splashing call for help that most people expect. The captain was trained to recognize drowning by experts and years of experience. The father, on the other hand, had learned what drowning looks like by watching television." 2013 Slate article: https://slate.com/technology/2013/06/rescuing-drowning-children-how-to-know-when-someone-is-in-trouble-in-the-water.html https://slate.com/technology/2013/06/rescuing-drowning-child...