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This might be unpopular opinion but... More robots and more automation comes on line everyday, soon there will be less and less employees at these facilities r

This might be unpopular opinion but... More robots and more automation comes on line everyday, soon there will be less and less employees at these facilities regardless of unions. Unions or government regulation where not able to save the type writer or the typewriter union. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Women_Clerks_and_Secretaries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Women_Clerks_an... dissolved in 1989 The market(capitalism) is going to do what the market(capitalism) does.

criddell 5y ago
There's nothing wrong with that opinion but you aren't considering all the other things unions do for their members. A union can't make those jobs last forever but it can try to make working conditions better for as long as the job lasts.
_jal 5y ago
That's a fine opinion. I happen to agree that some what you imply is true. But you can claim that about a lot of things that we choose to treat differently. Property crime is inevitable, and yet we devote significant resources to fighting that. Same with death. If you don't want to devote resources to figuring out what to do with a lot of "surplus humanity", they'll help you make up your mind later.
ipaddr 5y ago
Why wouldn't robots be in unions in the future? It will be part of giving robots human rights and social progress. You won't be able to own robots like they are slaves. Robots will demand and get more.
hutzlibu 5y ago
"The market(capitalism) is going to do what the market(capitalism) does. " And unions do, what unions do: try to negotiate better conditions for their members. Whether they provide a net benefit to society, is a different and I think very case specific question.
- kazen44 5y ago
  also, the market/capitalism doesn't do what capitalism does. Society functions in that construct because it is still beneficial for the majority of its population Revolutions rarely happen over pure ideological reasons. Usually, ideology is used as a means to an end for a given situation.
  - chad_strategic 5y ago
    This is awesome! I would argue that all revolutions/wars are not ideological, there is always underlying economic component to it.
paxys 5y ago
It's not an unpopular opinion but rather pretty obvious. That does not in any way change the fact that Amazon is beholden to the employees it has right now and still needs to follow labor laws. They are welcome to simultaneously build as many robots as they want.
amznthrwaway 5y ago
We’ll have more automation, sure. but only they most vile fascist fuck would argue that means labor should have no rights in the interim Though I understand that this is a vile fascist website, that is intended to appeal to authoritarian right-wing assholes like yourself. Daniel Gackle works hard to ensure that leftists have no place on this website. He’s a morally abhorrent pile of dung who lied straight up about me and my previous actions. Just a zero integrity pile of human fucking misery.

criddell 5y ago

There's nothing wrong with that opinion but you aren't considering all the other things unions do for their members. A union can't make those jobs last forever but it can try to make working conditions better for as long as the job lasts.

_jal 5y ago

That's a fine opinion. I happen to agree that some what you imply is true. But you can claim that about a lot of things that we choose to treat differently. Property crime is inevitable, and yet we devote significant resources to fighting that. Same with death. If you don't want to devote resources to figuring out what to do with a lot of "surplus humanity", they'll help you make up your mind later.

ipaddr 5y ago

Why wouldn't robots be in unions in the future? It will be part of giving robots human rights and social progress. You won't be able to own robots like they are slaves. Robots will demand and get more.

hutzlibu 5y ago

"The market(capitalism) is going to do what the market(capitalism) does. " And unions do, what unions do: try to negotiate better conditions for their members. Whether they provide a net benefit to society, is a different and I think very case specific question.

kazen44 5y ago
also, the market/capitalism doesn't do what capitalism does. Society functions in that construct because it is still beneficial for the majority of its population Revolutions rarely happen over pure ideological reasons. Usually, ideology is used as a means to an end for a given situation.
- chad_strategic 5y ago
  This is awesome! I would argue that all revolutions/wars are not ideological, there is always underlying economic component to it.

paxys 5y ago

It's not an unpopular opinion but rather pretty obvious. That does not in any way change the fact that Amazon is beholden to the employees it has right now and still needs to follow labor laws. They are welcome to simultaneously build as many robots as they want.

amznthrwaway 5y ago

We’ll have more automation, sure. but only they most vile fascist fuck would argue that means labor should have no rights in the interim Though I understand that this is a vile fascist website, that is intended to appeal to authoritarian right-wing assholes like yourself. Daniel Gackle works hard to ensure that leftists have no place on this website. He’s a morally abhorrent pile of dung who lied straight up about me and my previous actions. Just a zero integrity pile of human fucking misery.