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With this offer of $49 for "10 years of cellular" (and 500Mb data [1]) included, I wonder which LTE network is expected to provide and support that connectivity

by ourcat 5y ago

With this offer of $49 for "10 years of cellular" (and 500Mb data [1]) included, I wonder which LTE network is expected to provide and support that connectivity for that long? Something like this could be a good candidate for what the Helium Network (and similar) are intending to do. [1] : https://dev.blues.io/hardware/notecard-datasheet/note-wbex-500/#cellular-service https://dev.blues.io/hardware/notecard-datasheet/note-wbex-5...

bassman9000 5y ago
500Mb across the 10years? Monthly?
- rozzie 5y ago
  The Notecard auto-activates on first use. Without a recharge, it will "just work" until the earlier of a) 10 years b) 500MB of data used If you need more years or more data we can help, but in the vast, vast majority of narrowband use cases we've found this to be quite sufficient.
- ourcat 5y ago
  That's what it comes loaded with. 500Mb data and 10 years connectivity, which I assume you can top-up.
- kbenson 5y ago
  Based on prior comments from the seller, for the life. And so nobody else has to compute it, that's: 5,256,000 minutes in 10 years (ignoring leap years) 500,000,000 bytes of data (assuming mega and not mebi) An average of 95 bytes a minute per device over that 10 years, or an average of 951 bytes every 10 minutes, or more than 5k an hour. For event messages, that seems like something that can be worked within fairly easily, depending on use.
  - rozzie 5y ago
    Truth in advertising: As stated in another response above, if you want to do a real computation you need to factor-in "session setup" overhead. If you config for TCP/IP (unencrypted) your session overhead is about 1kb. If you config for TLS, your session overhead is just under 4KB. Once the session starts, data transfer is super efficient - probably about 250-500 bytes for a half dozen or dozen notes of typical size. Session duration is typically 1-2 seconds. The other secret of most IoT platforms is that their negotiated rates round sessions to 1KB boundaries. That's insane for IoT. For ours there is no rounding, and the 'practical' rounding is the 40-byte TCP/IP header.

by ourcat 5y ago

bassman9000 5y ago

500Mb across the 10years? Monthly?

rozzie 5y ago
The Notecard auto-activates on first use. Without a recharge, it will "just work" until the earlier of a) 10 years b) 500MB of data used If you need more years or more data we can help, but in the vast, vast majority of narrowband use cases we've found this to be quite sufficient.
ourcat 5y ago
That's what it comes loaded with. 500Mb data and 10 years connectivity, which I assume you can top-up.
kbenson 5y ago
Based on prior comments from the seller, for the life. And so nobody else has to compute it, that's: 5,256,000 minutes in 10 years (ignoring leap years) 500,000,000 bytes of data (assuming mega and not mebi) An average of 95 bytes a minute per device over that 10 years, or an average of 951 bytes every 10 minutes, or more than 5k an hour. For event messages, that seems like something that can be worked within fairly easily, depending on use.
- rozzie 5y ago
  Truth in advertising: As stated in another response above, if you want to do a real computation you need to factor-in "session setup" overhead. If you config for TCP/IP (unencrypted) your session overhead is about 1kb. If you config for TLS, your session overhead is just under 4KB. Once the session starts, data transfer is super efficient - probably about 250-500 bytes for a half dozen or dozen notes of typical size. Session duration is typically 1-2 seconds. The other secret of most IoT platforms is that their negotiated rates round sessions to 1KB boundaries. That's insane for IoT. For ours there is no rounding, and the 'practical' rounding is the 40-byte TCP/IP header.