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> Non-fair trade is considered unethical based on ethics. No, it is not. If it were, fair trade wouldn't be niche. It adds lots of other obligations on compani
by diffeomorphism 5y ago
> Non-fair trade is considered unethical based on ethics.
No, it is not. If it were, fair trade wouldn't be niche. It adds lots of other obligations on companies "based on their particular agenda". I think it is worthwhile goal and something I like to support, but won't pretend that it is somehow pure, self-evident goodness, just like non-fair trade is not pure evil.
Again, you might disagree or have different ideas what "free" is supposed to mean but you should be better than throwing around phrases like "agenda" or "nothing to do with ethics or morality".
- trasz 5y agoPeople and societies have no problem with ignoring ethics when it benefits them. Otherwise we wouldn’t be waging wars and sucking profits off poorer societies. Fair trade is based on pretty fundamental ethics, such as fighting slavery. Can you point any such concept being foundational to Free Software?
- diffeomorphism 5y ago> Fair trade is based on pretty fundamental ethics, such as fighting slavery. Not really, no. Again, lots of non-"fair trade" products exist and those are not against fighting slavery. > Can you point any such concept being foundational to Free Software? Seriously? Their whole stick is fighting software practices they consider unethical. You might disagree whether that is fundamental ethics, but to them it is and it is rude and dishonest to pretend that is not the case. For example, I am not vegetarian, but understand that there are people who feel strongly about that. That is fine and if you go "vegetarians are pushing their agenda which has nothing to do with ethics" that says more about you than about them.
- trasz 5y agoTo some people the Earth is flat. Is it rude and dishonest to call bullshit on them?
- diffeomorphism 5y agoTo call vegetarians flat earthers? Yes, that is rude and dishonest.
- trasz 5y agoVegetarians do have a valid point: eating meat involves animal suffering. That’s ethics, not an entirely arbitrary, unfounded belief. Again, how does Free Software relate to ethics?
- diffeomorphism 5y ago> not an entirely arbitrary, unfounded belief. Don't be an asshole.
- trasz 5y agoDeveloping closed source software is “being an asshole”? Interesting view.
- diffeomorphism 5y agoNo, your reading comprehension is just really bad.
- trasz 5y agoSaid someone who claims the ethics is a made up concept, yet cannot explain why :-D