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I'm an exclusive arch user and very happy with my time but your comment pisses me off. You had a poor experience with MacOS and a great experience with Linux so

I'm an exclusive arch user and very happy with my time but your comment pisses me off. You had a poor experience with MacOS and a great experience with Linux so naturally the OP must either be misrepresenting their experience or "doing something wrong"? Why on earth would anyone want to purchase another computer for the sake of using an OS that they already have been soured on, especially when they could just spin up a VM? That's just being wasteful regardless of how expensive it is (computers also occupy space, energy, and time).

wayneftw 5y ago
> ...but your comment pisses me off. That's your choice, I guess. I'm happy :) > You had a poor experience with MacOS. No, I've had poor experiences with every OS. The difference is that macOS problems are the worst type of problems that can't or won't be solved because Apple will just pull the rug out from under you at any minute. That and there are just too many things which macOS simply cannot do. > ...so naturally the OP must either be misrepresenting their experience or "doing something wrong"? Nope. I said that they're most likely doing something wrong. You added that bit about them misrepresenting their experience. > Why on earth would anyone want to purchase another computer for the sake of using an OS that they already have been soured on... Well gee, I thought this was a forum for tech enthusiasts. And didn't the guy say he has like 47 years of Linux and Windows experience combined? Doesn't sound sour to me... Sounds like he kept trying for a reason and that reason is obviously that a Mac couldn't fill his needs this time for a few different reasons. > especially when they could just spin up a VM? Perhaps you can read one of the 32 replies that "handrous" wrote in this thread to find out why he didn't use a VM. If you can't think of any reasons why someone might not want to use a VM for their combined gaming and workstation experiment, then I probably can't help you answer your question. > That's just being wasteful... Incorrect. That's just being pragmatic. Hey, I hope you enjoy being pissed off and sour with the other guy though. I'll continue being happy and living the easy life with my single OS computers that do what I want them to because I keep things simple.
- vimacs2 5y ago
  Instead of pulling "obvious" reasons out of your ass, how about listening to the guy's explicitly given reason instead - specifically that he wanted a gaming rig and didn't want to pay the "Apple tax". There is also PCI-Passthrough so you can in fact use a VM for gaming but it's rather cute that you're attempting to paint me as the one who is somehow failing to understand why a particular system might not fulfills their needs. Also, which "other guy?" Handerous himself? I don't recall him ever expressing being "pissed off and sour" so either you just assumed guilt by association or your reading comprehension is way off. Also, you literally painted a crash a year as if that's a real problem with MacOS or really any desktop OS. Don't pretend like you're being objective when you are clearly not. It's great that purchasing multiple devices for each OS suits you. Not everyone is you or agree on what a "simple" scheme is.
  - wayneftw 5y ago
    Hmmm, well one doesn't pull obvious reasons out of ones ass. Obvious reasons are made obvious by simply existing... and the "Apple tax" seems like an obvious problem to me which is why I referred to it as being obvious in the first place. Nobody said you or he couldn't use PCI-Passthrough? I honestly don't care what you do - but if and when that doesn't work for you and you come complaining, I'll be glad to share my own experience wherein I don't use such convoluted garbage and my stuff just works. You yourself claimed he was sour and that you were pissed. Your words, not mine. A crash a year or every other year is a problem and I'm absolutely, objectively certain of that. Sounds like you have the same problem since you think it's normal. I don't have these problems and I'm betting that's because I keep things very simple. So in my opinion, you're both probably doing something wrong. > It's great that purchasing multiple devices for each OS suits you. Not everyone is you or agree on what a "simple" scheme is. It doesn't just suit me, it's empirically better since my machines run for years without crashing. I'm fine with people not agreeing on what's simple because at the end of the day, my stuff is running fine and whatever you guys are doing is not working because you're pissed and he's sour with machines that you can't keep running properly. I'm not trying to paint anything though. I do enjoy responding to angry frustration with cool, level headed guidance though because I find that it helps those who can be helped. Perhaps that won't work here, so I guess go ahead and get that last word in, I know it's important to some.

wayneftw 5y ago

> ...but your comment pisses me off. That's your choice, I guess. I'm happy :) > You had a poor experience with MacOS. No, I've had poor experiences with every OS. The difference is that macOS problems are the worst type of problems that can't or won't be solved because Apple will just pull the rug out from under you at any minute. That and there are just too many things which macOS simply cannot do. > ...so naturally the OP must either be misrepresenting their experience or "doing something wrong"? Nope. I said that they're most likely doing something wrong. You added that bit about them misrepresenting their experience. > Why on earth would anyone want to purchase another computer for the sake of using an OS that they already have been soured on... Well gee, I thought this was a forum for tech enthusiasts. And didn't the guy say he has like 47 years of Linux and Windows experience combined? Doesn't sound sour to me... Sounds like he kept trying for a reason and that reason is obviously that a Mac couldn't fill his needs this time for a few different reasons. > especially when they could just spin up a VM? Perhaps you can read one of the 32 replies that "handrous" wrote in this thread to find out why he didn't use a VM. If you can't think of any reasons why someone might not want to use a VM for their combined gaming and workstation experiment, then I probably can't help you answer your question. > That's just being wasteful... Incorrect. That's just being pragmatic. Hey, I hope you enjoy being pissed off and sour with the other guy though. I'll continue being happy and living the easy life with my single OS computers that do what I want them to because I keep things simple.

vimacs2 5y ago
Instead of pulling "obvious" reasons out of your ass, how about listening to the guy's explicitly given reason instead - specifically that he wanted a gaming rig and didn't want to pay the "Apple tax". There is also PCI-Passthrough so you can in fact use a VM for gaming but it's rather cute that you're attempting to paint me as the one who is somehow failing to understand why a particular system might not fulfills their needs. Also, which "other guy?" Handerous himself? I don't recall him ever expressing being "pissed off and sour" so either you just assumed guilt by association or your reading comprehension is way off. Also, you literally painted a crash a year as if that's a real problem with MacOS or really any desktop OS. Don't pretend like you're being objective when you are clearly not. It's great that purchasing multiple devices for each OS suits you. Not everyone is you or agree on what a "simple" scheme is.
- wayneftw 5y ago
  Hmmm, well one doesn't pull obvious reasons out of ones ass. Obvious reasons are made obvious by simply existing... and the "Apple tax" seems like an obvious problem to me which is why I referred to it as being obvious in the first place. Nobody said you or he couldn't use PCI-Passthrough? I honestly don't care what you do - but if and when that doesn't work for you and you come complaining, I'll be glad to share my own experience wherein I don't use such convoluted garbage and my stuff just works. You yourself claimed he was sour and that you were pissed. Your words, not mine. A crash a year or every other year is a problem and I'm absolutely, objectively certain of that. Sounds like you have the same problem since you think it's normal. I don't have these problems and I'm betting that's because I keep things very simple. So in my opinion, you're both probably doing something wrong. > It's great that purchasing multiple devices for each OS suits you. Not everyone is you or agree on what a "simple" scheme is. It doesn't just suit me, it's empirically better since my machines run for years without crashing. I'm fine with people not agreeing on what's simple because at the end of the day, my stuff is running fine and whatever you guys are doing is not working because you're pissed and he's sour with machines that you can't keep running properly. I'm not trying to paint anything though. I do enjoy responding to angry frustration with cool, level headed guidance though because I find that it helps those who can be helped. Perhaps that won't work here, so I guess go ahead and get that last word in, I know it's important to some.