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Not even a consideration of svelte?

by qmmmur 5y ago

goodoldneon 5y ago
Picking Svelte is risky, given its low adoption. I'm not saying Svelte won't ever be widely adopted, but there's a risk that it fades away and you're stuck using a dead framework.
paulddraper 5y ago
Svelte is very new (a year and half of meaningful adoption). React, Angular, Vue.js are the most popular, in that order. I hate to say might=right, but for a project like Wikimedia, choosing a mature, popular framework is important.
- avaldes 5y ago
  What happened to emberjs? It was poised to become the next big thing after react and angular and suddenly nobody talks about it anymore.
  - finiteseries 5y ago
    It’s still around a bit. It was a hulking, omakase, MVC? based framework at a time when the oppo was Angular 2.0 & Backbone.js and people still used Bower, then React threw everything on its head in favor of component libraries while NPM came into the mix. They eventually refactored in components and I think repackaged everything for the new js fe ecosystem, but the battle was already lost.
    - kyawzazaw 5y ago
      LinkedIn uses it
  - paulddraper 5y ago
    It was the 3rd most popular in 2016, and 4th most popular in 2017-2018. It didn't go anywhere. Vue.js just became more popular for whatever reason.
    - hotz 5y ago
      It could be the push it got from the PHP/Laravel world. Built-in support and popular devs in the community were advocating hard for it.
lifthrasiir 5y ago
It was considered [1]: > Svelte, Inferno, and Preact are aggressively optimized for performance but have much smaller communities of users (Preact suffers from this issue to a lesser extent, but only as long as it maintains a very high level of compatibility with mainstream React, which may not be the case forever). [1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T241180 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T241180
cdrini 5y ago
Svelte and Vue are actually very similar in some ways. Personally, I hope Vue creates an option to compile its components into static components like svelte; having the option to have a runtime component or a static compile time component would be super powerful!

Not even a consideration of svelte?

by qmmmur 5y ago

Not even a consideration of svelte?

Picking Svelte is risky, given its low adoption. I'm not saying Svelte won't ever be widely adopted, but there's a risk that it fades away and you're stuck using a dead framework.

paulddraper 5y ago

Svelte is very new (a year and half of meaningful adoption). React, Angular, Vue.js are the most popular, in that order. I hate to say might=right, but for a project like Wikimedia, choosing a mature, popular framework is important.

avaldes 5y ago
What happened to emberjs? It was poised to become the next big thing after react and angular and suddenly nobody talks about it anymore.
- finiteseries 5y ago
  It’s still around a bit. It was a hulking, omakase, MVC? based framework at a time when the oppo was Angular 2.0 & Backbone.js and people still used Bower, then React threw everything on its head in favor of component libraries while NPM came into the mix. They eventually refactored in components and I think repackaged everything for the new js fe ecosystem, but the battle was already lost.
  - kyawzazaw 5y ago
    LinkedIn uses it
- paulddraper 5y ago
  It was the 3rd most popular in 2016, and 4th most popular in 2017-2018. It didn't go anywhere. Vue.js just became more popular for whatever reason.
  - hotz 5y ago
    It could be the push it got from the PHP/Laravel world. Built-in support and popular devs in the community were advocating hard for it.

lifthrasiir 5y ago

It was considered [1]: > Svelte, Inferno, and Preact are aggressively optimized for performance but have much smaller communities of users (Preact suffers from this issue to a lesser extent, but only as long as it maintains a very high level of compatibility with mainstream React, which may not be the case forever). [1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T241180 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T241180

cdrini 5y ago

Svelte and Vue are actually very similar in some ways. Personally, I hope Vue creates an option to compile its components into static components like svelte; having the option to have a runtime component or a static compile time component would be super powerful!