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Um, no. Humans do have morality, and can and should apply it to one another - and can expect and even demand the same in return from others. We can't do that wi
by m12k 5y ago
Um, no. Humans do have morality, and can and should apply it to one another - and can expect and even demand the same in return from others. We can't do that with nature, and nature does not need or want that in return from us.
Humans are both animals, that need to fit into an ecosystem, and social creatures, that need to fit into a society. Both domains require rules for how we interact with and fit into them, but those rules are not the same.
- hypertele-Xii 5y agoSo are you saying humans are super-natural?
- m12k 5y agoWhat on earth makes you think that? No, I don't think humans are super-natural. But in addition to being creatures sprung from nature, we are also something else (indeed, the very definition of something being anything other than natural, i.e. cultural or artificial, is that humans have had a hand in its creation).
- hypertele-Xii 5y ago> in addition to being creatures sprung from nature, we are also something else Super-natural: More than natural. You are literally saying humans are supernatural (using the Latin prefix 'super-' meaning "in addition to" [1]). [1] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/super#Latin https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/super#Latin
- troyvit 5y agoI think the only flaw there is that our morality came from nature and therefore is one of the things we use to fit into our ecosystem. There's nothing to say we shouldn't apply it to other members of the system. If nature didn't "want" that we wouldn't be capable of doing it. Given how far up the food chain we are it could be argued that our morality exists precisely for this purpose.