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For me it wasn't dark and stormy, it was hot and smoky... I discovered my three "No Trespassing" signs were not on the receipt. It is funny that my anti-crime

For me it wasn't dark and stormy, it was hot and smoky... I discovered my three "No Trespassing" signs were not on the receipt. It is funny that my anti-crime sign ended up being a crime. I spend so damn much money with them though, recently purchased wood chipper, gas powered post driver and tons of other little things. Probably spent a good $2000 in the past 4 months, so I don't feel guilty.

jacquesm 5y ago
Your ideas of morality are interesting for want of a better word.
- cryvate1284 5y ago
  Is he wrong though? If you went to a shop and spent $2,000 but forgot to pay for 3 items (say worth $5) by accident, I do not think the shop manager should be upset, or that you should feel bad about it? If it was a smaller/non-chain store, it would probably be free! If anything, the main annoyance is probably their stock numbers being out of date. Making mistakes is human, and I do not think they should feel bad for what they have done (and for not correcting it), and this is coming from someone who cannot steal the bags that now cost 20 pence at Tesco and even went to buy imaginary food at Waitrose after I forgot to pay another time...
  - coding123 5y ago
    Just to clarify, yes the 3 signs probably total $6. Would I feel guilty if they didn't charge me for a $300 tool? Absolutely not, because I would have gone back in and told them about it.
  - jacquesm 5y ago
    No, he isn't wrong, I just had not thought of it in that way. If you spend a fortune in a store then that creates a bit more leeway for accidents whereas when you walk into a store with the single purpose of relieving them of their wares then that gives a completely different vibe. Intent is what matters and I had not come to this conclusion. I'm always going out of my way to keep things fair and can be quite rigid about this, never even realized there are shades of gray there.
    - soneil 5y ago
      The fun parts of 'shades of gray' is this can actually lead to increased sales down the line, if you end up with that quiet nagging "I owe them for .." in the back of your head. Almost like goodwill that the store did nothing to intentionally earn. Innocent mistakes are incredibly curious beasts.
- coding123 5y ago
  Thanks for the personal insult.
  - jacquesm 5y ago
    Insult?
    - coding123 5y ago
      Morality "is interesting for lack of a better word" USUALLY means a negative thing - and you meant it specifically about "my ideas of morality" as a whole - so yes that is an insult. I didn't get "your morality is awesome I wish I was like that" from your statement so I do apologize if I reached and I am wrong about what you meant.
      - jacquesm 5y ago
        No, I just think it is interesting, and I don't have a better term for it. For me - right up until reading your comment - such a thing was black-and-white, and I see that there is some wiggle room there based on the rest of the relationship, so thank you for that. I do believe that if you were caught in a situation like that on the way to the door from the register that it might cause a lot of trouble though, which in turn might end up with you stopping to visit that particular store. I've seen enough of this in a local supermarket (Albert Heijn, a large chain in NL), which has switched to self checkout + random checks on a lot of checkout lanes. Older people that are more or less forced to use the self checkout because there are now too few cashiers end up making mistakes and are then treated like shoplifters if they end up with a random check. Quite frustrating.
        coding123 5y ago
        Thanks and I do apologize for the assumption earlier.
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jacquesm 5y ago

Your ideas of morality are interesting for want of a better word.

cryvate1284 5y ago
Is he wrong though? If you went to a shop and spent $2,000 but forgot to pay for 3 items (say worth $5) by accident, I do not think the shop manager should be upset, or that you should feel bad about it? If it was a smaller/non-chain store, it would probably be free! If anything, the main annoyance is probably their stock numbers being out of date. Making mistakes is human, and I do not think they should feel bad for what they have done (and for not correcting it), and this is coming from someone who cannot steal the bags that now cost 20 pence at Tesco and even went to buy imaginary food at Waitrose after I forgot to pay another time...
- coding123 5y ago
  Just to clarify, yes the 3 signs probably total $6. Would I feel guilty if they didn't charge me for a $300 tool? Absolutely not, because I would have gone back in and told them about it.
- jacquesm 5y ago
  No, he isn't wrong, I just had not thought of it in that way. If you spend a fortune in a store then that creates a bit more leeway for accidents whereas when you walk into a store with the single purpose of relieving them of their wares then that gives a completely different vibe. Intent is what matters and I had not come to this conclusion. I'm always going out of my way to keep things fair and can be quite rigid about this, never even realized there are shades of gray there.
  - soneil 5y ago
    The fun parts of 'shades of gray' is this can actually lead to increased sales down the line, if you end up with that quiet nagging "I owe them for .." in the back of your head. Almost like goodwill that the store did nothing to intentionally earn. Innocent mistakes are incredibly curious beasts.
coding123 5y ago
Thanks for the personal insult.
- jacquesm 5y ago
  Insult?
  - coding123 5y ago
    Morality "is interesting for lack of a better word" USUALLY means a negative thing - and you meant it specifically about "my ideas of morality" as a whole - so yes that is an insult. I didn't get "your morality is awesome I wish I was like that" from your statement so I do apologize if I reached and I am wrong about what you meant.
    - jacquesm 5y ago
      No, I just think it is interesting, and I don't have a better term for it. For me - right up until reading your comment - such a thing was black-and-white, and I see that there is some wiggle room there based on the rest of the relationship, so thank you for that. I do believe that if you were caught in a situation like that on the way to the door from the register that it might cause a lot of trouble though, which in turn might end up with you stopping to visit that particular store. I've seen enough of this in a local supermarket (Albert Heijn, a large chain in NL), which has switched to self checkout + random checks on a lot of checkout lanes. Older people that are more or less forced to use the self checkout because there are now too few cashiers end up making mistakes and are then treated like shoplifters if they end up with a random check. Quite frustrating.
      - coding123 5y ago
        Thanks and I do apologize for the assumption earlier.
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