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(Disclaimer: MS Employee) I don't think that the majority of people focus on gaming the system - the best way to game the system is still by doing awesome work.

• jdp23 15y ago
  No, the best way to game the system is to suck up to your manager and tear down the work of the people in the peer group you're being compared with. I worked there for about 8 years and saw a large number of people doing both of these ...
  • Afton 15y ago
    Disclaimer: MS is a big company. I don't see this attitude in my group at all. Not saying it doesn't exist elsewhere, but people are extremely generous with sharing credit/praise, and people overall are pretty good at standing up and publicly admitting errors. I'm sorry you worked in a sucky group. Hope it's better where you are now.
    • jdp23 15y ago
      Very true, and I didn't mean to tar all groups with the same brush. There are plenty of great teams at MS which avoid these dynamics. However there are also plenty of people gaming the system and I think if you look at Microsoft's overall lack of success -- and the number of passionate creative people who have left -- "the curve" and how it's applied have a lot to do with it.
  • chollida1 15y ago
    That's too bad. I didn't see this at my time with Microsoft. Though to be fair, I was on the windows kernel team, a team that's been together for a long time and doesn't have any infighting at all.