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I would be interested to know if the flat spot between 12 and 15 persists with larger sample sizes. That seems the most surprising thing here.

by pg 15y ago

corin_ 15y ago
Based on past conversations with my mother (teacher) and a friend (linguistic researcher, can't for the life of me remember what it's actually called) I would actually expect that to be the slowest period of learning in this area - slowest, but not that flat. So my suspicion is that it's 80% down to lack of data. (But equally possible that I'm proven wrong, as it certainly isn't my area of expertise and this knowledge comes from purely random conversations in the past.)
crazygringo 15y ago
Yes, the data before 15 is still pretty spotty, not too many preteens participating -- I would be very surprised if it persisted.
- lliiffee 15y ago
  You could always make another graph that includes confidence intervals! (Please)
  - brianleb 15y ago
    I also would love to see some confidence intervals and p values, just out of personal interest. Either way, really glad you did something with the data beyond collecting it!
  - crazygringo 15y ago
    We'd definitely like to, and hope to in the future.
drats 15y ago
For myself at that age vocabulary drills present in the earlier stage of schooling were subsequently dropped moving to the next level (primary school to secondary school). I presume that junior high and middle school in other systems occupy that space and might be breaking with the teaching patterns, and teacher training, of the elementary school level. But, as always, more data would be better than speculation.
praptak 15y ago
I'd like to see per gender breakdown. It's interesting to check past research[1] against new data. [1] http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=are-women-really-better-with-language http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=are-women-r... [Girl Talk: Are Women Really Better at Language?]
bane 15y ago
Thinking back to that age, school and learning was not really much of a focus for me or my peers, we were more interested in what to do with the hormones flowing through our systems.

I would be interested to know if the flat spot between 12 and 15 persists with larger sample sizes. That seems the most surprising thing here.

by pg 15y ago

I would be interested to know if the flat spot between 12 and 15 persists with larger sample sizes. That seems the most surprising thing here.

corin_ 15y ago

Based on past conversations with my mother (teacher) and a friend (linguistic researcher, can't for the life of me remember what it's actually called) I would actually expect that to be the slowest period of learning in this area - slowest, but not that flat. So my suspicion is that it's 80% down to lack of data. (But equally possible that I'm proven wrong, as it certainly isn't my area of expertise and this knowledge comes from purely random conversations in the past.)

crazygringo 15y ago

Yes, the data before 15 is still pretty spotty, not too many preteens participating -- I would be very surprised if it persisted.

lliiffee 15y ago
You could always make another graph that includes confidence intervals! (Please)
- brianleb 15y ago
  I also would love to see some confidence intervals and p values, just out of personal interest. Either way, really glad you did something with the data beyond collecting it!
- crazygringo 15y ago
  We'd definitely like to, and hope to in the future.

drats 15y ago

For myself at that age vocabulary drills present in the earlier stage of schooling were subsequently dropped moving to the next level (primary school to secondary school). I presume that junior high and middle school in other systems occupy that space and might be breaking with the teaching patterns, and teacher training, of the elementary school level. But, as always, more data would be better than speculation.

praptak 15y ago

I'd like to see per gender breakdown. It's interesting to check past research[1] against new data. [1] http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=are-women-really-better-with-language http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=are-women-r... [Girl Talk: Are Women Really Better at Language?]

bane 15y ago

Thinking back to that age, school and learning was not really much of a focus for me or my peers, we were more interested in what to do with the hormones flowing through our systems.