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That is not at all what antifragile is. To be antifragile you need to always have top talent and have them work on deep projects and produce top notch products

by hsn915 5y ago

That is not at all what antifragile is. To be antifragile you need to always have top talent and have them work on deep projects and produce top notch products. Apple had that with Steve Jobs. I don't think it has that now. I haven't seen anything really interesting from Apple after Steve Jobs passed away. Their macbook offerings keep getting worse: the touch bar is a UX disaster. The desktop keeps getting slower. The UI keeps getting flatter and worse. Apple used to be a market leader: they would release a new product every few years and everyone would soon follow suit: iPhone, iPad. Now Apple is just trying to mimick other companies: producing various sizes and version of iPhone and iPad. Having a strong supply chain is not antifragile.

fmax30 5y ago
Why do you think that the M1 chip isn't interesting enough? Other than that, their apple watches also have some very novel technologies. Also, their newer iPads with the M1 chip are processing power houses.
- hsn915 5y ago
  M1 chip is not a product. It's a component in a product. It doesn't really do that much for the end user. Software runs faster now but in a few years everything will become slower again, as always happens.
  - user-the-name 5y ago
    No, the M1 is not a product. A Macbook with an M1 chip is, though, and a Macbook with an M1 chip is an amazing product, right now. Nothing else gets close.
    - stjohnswarts 5y ago
      It really is, it's so buttery smooth and the battery life and how quiet it is is quite slick. I don't own one but I did borrow one from a friend for a day trip and it was really nice. Not nice enough for me to not wait until I run my current battery hog linux daily driver into the ground but it was really nice and did a decent job compiling my rust projects.
firecall 5y ago
Airpods would like a word!
PostThisTooFast 5y ago
Let's not forget the sad degradation of the physical quality of Apple computers, and the deletion of usefulness at the hands of Jony Ive... a pompous hack and a mimic who had no ideas to ADVANCE user interfaces. All he had to offer was his asinine mania to make products "thinner," and introducing grave defects to them as part of that pursuit. Now Apple computers are glued-together, flimsy sandwiches of a still-pathetic keyboard and soldered-in RAM and SSDs. Then there's the ridiculous deletion of headphone jacks from devices on which Apple wants you to consume their media. Straight-up stupidity and an aggressive insult to customers.
tpush 5y ago
> Now Apple is just trying to mimick other companies: producing various sizes and version of iPhone and iPad. Disagree: AirPods are a cultural phenomenon with many copy cats and the Apple Watch is the most popular and profitable watch (not just smart watch) in the world.
_rutinerad 5y ago
Two years ago a lot of people would have thought your comment was spot on. Now it's just demonstrably false.
paganel 5y ago
> I don't think it has that now. I haven't seen anything really interesting from Apple after Steve Jobs passed away It's not revolutionary but the new M1 laptops from Apple are one of the best hardware-related things I have purchased in the last 10 years or so. Presumably it won't bring Apple tens of billions in profits but they have managed to gain some developers' goodwill for the platform.
- shepherdjerred 5y ago
  I disagree. Apple moving to ARM is going to push the industry more towards that architecture. It's going to be monumental. Not only that, but the M1 is a fantastic chip. If Apple is able to iterate on the M1 they'll outshine AMD/Intel in no time (if they don't already).
phgn 5y ago
They are antifragile in producing the current class of consumer electronics? I agree that optimized supply chains and economies of scale are generally fragile. If other types of devices become popular, they'll have inertia other innovators won't. But I don't think this question is black and white. Apple has fragile, robust and antifragile aspects.

by hsn915 5y ago

fmax30 5y ago

Why do you think that the M1 chip isn't interesting enough? Other than that, their apple watches also have some very novel technologies. Also, their newer iPads with the M1 chip are processing power houses.

hsn915 5y ago
M1 chip is not a product. It's a component in a product. It doesn't really do that much for the end user. Software runs faster now but in a few years everything will become slower again, as always happens.
- user-the-name 5y ago
  No, the M1 is not a product. A Macbook with an M1 chip is, though, and a Macbook with an M1 chip is an amazing product, right now. Nothing else gets close.
  - stjohnswarts 5y ago
    It really is, it's so buttery smooth and the battery life and how quiet it is is quite slick. I don't own one but I did borrow one from a friend for a day trip and it was really nice. Not nice enough for me to not wait until I run my current battery hog linux daily driver into the ground but it was really nice and did a decent job compiling my rust projects.

firecall 5y ago

Airpods would like a word!

PostThisTooFast 5y ago

Let's not forget the sad degradation of the physical quality of Apple computers, and the deletion of usefulness at the hands of Jony Ive... a pompous hack and a mimic who had no ideas to ADVANCE user interfaces. All he had to offer was his asinine mania to make products "thinner," and introducing grave defects to them as part of that pursuit. Now Apple computers are glued-together, flimsy sandwiches of a still-pathetic keyboard and soldered-in RAM and SSDs. Then there's the ridiculous deletion of headphone jacks from devices on which Apple wants you to consume their media. Straight-up stupidity and an aggressive insult to customers.

tpush 5y ago

> Now Apple is just trying to mimick other companies: producing various sizes and version of iPhone and iPad. Disagree: AirPods are a cultural phenomenon with many copy cats and the Apple Watch is the most popular and profitable watch (not just smart watch) in the world.

_rutinerad 5y ago

Two years ago a lot of people would have thought your comment was spot on. Now it's just demonstrably false.

paganel 5y ago

> I don't think it has that now. I haven't seen anything really interesting from Apple after Steve Jobs passed away It's not revolutionary but the new M1 laptops from Apple are one of the best hardware-related things I have purchased in the last 10 years or so. Presumably it won't bring Apple tens of billions in profits but they have managed to gain some developers' goodwill for the platform.

shepherdjerred 5y ago
I disagree. Apple moving to ARM is going to push the industry more towards that architecture. It's going to be monumental. Not only that, but the M1 is a fantastic chip. If Apple is able to iterate on the M1 they'll outshine AMD/Intel in no time (if they don't already).

phgn 5y ago

They are antifragile in producing the current class of consumer electronics? I agree that optimized supply chains and economies of scale are generally fragile. If other types of devices become popular, they'll have inertia other innovators won't. But I don't think this question is black and white. Apple has fragile, robust and antifragile aspects.