Thanks, it makes perfect sense and is pretty much why I virtually never use mocks. In fact, my personal philosophy is at odds with most advice I have seen aroun

Thanks, it makes perfect sense and is pretty much why I virtually never use mocks. In fact, my personal philosophy is at odds with most advice I have seen around unit testing, in that I try to avoid the use of even stubs wherever possible. In other words, I try to make my unit tests as much like integration tests as possible. Obvious exceptions are things like third-party APIs, which must be stubbed, but everything else I try to get close to production code.