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Salaries in Japan are 65-70% of SF Bay Area (for FAANG, local is much worse) London, U.K. is about the same as Japan. I don’t have experience with India, and m

by hinoki 5y ago

Salaries in Japan are 65-70% of SF Bay Area (for FAANG, local is much worse) London, U.K. is about the same as Japan. I don’t have experience with India, and my knowledge of Canada is too far out of date to be useful. All those salaries are very good for the local market, but are also much lower than SF.

grp000 5y ago
After travelling in Japan, I was really surprised by how cheap apartments are in Tokyo. For reference, this was 3 years ago near the big main Sumo arena/dojo, at around $800 USD/month, and fast food was around $4 USD/meal. I don't know anything about the income tax rates, but 65-70% pay seems like you'd take home more than an SFer being paid SF rates.
- hinoki 5y ago
  If you’re ok with a tiny apartment, yes. If you want some space or have a family it’s not as cheap, but it is definitely less than 65% of Bay Area rent.
oumua_don17 5y ago
In India, at a FAANG, it’s usually 40-50% of Bay Area salaries.
- varjag 5y ago
  We should bear in mind that salaries are only a part of total compensation in U.S. mothership locations.
  - oumua_don17 5y ago
    Actually I meant TC is 40-50% of Bay Area TC. Thanks for pointing out TC vs salary. I can’t edit my original comment.
FractalParadigm 5y ago
> my knowledge of Canada is too far out of date to be useful All I can say, is in personal anecdotal experience, I make about the same money (with better hours!) in my current factory job than I would have if I finished my degree and went into software, and with none of the stress or crunch time or deadline associated. For example, looking at Glassdoor they have Google's Toronto office reporting starting salaries of ~$90-100k - while my base pay is only ~$62k ($29.50/hr) we get double-time overtime after 40 hours, I can (and have) clear(ed) well over $130k/yr with minimal effort. They're offering decent salaries compared to other tech jobs in the area, but it's average-at-best if you start comparing unskilled labourer salaries in as a comparison.
- onlyrealcuzzo 5y ago
  Glassdoor is pretty bad for salaries at FAANG. That might be the average base for someone in Toronto. But they're getting a bonus of 15%, plus RSUs usually of about ~50%+ of base - but in the last year these RSUs have doubled, so ~100%+ of base.

by hinoki 5y ago

grp000 5y ago

After travelling in Japan, I was really surprised by how cheap apartments are in Tokyo. For reference, this was 3 years ago near the big main Sumo arena/dojo, at around $800 USD/month, and fast food was around $4 USD/meal. I don't know anything about the income tax rates, but 65-70% pay seems like you'd take home more than an SFer being paid SF rates.

hinoki 5y ago
If you’re ok with a tiny apartment, yes. If you want some space or have a family it’s not as cheap, but it is definitely less than 65% of Bay Area rent.

oumua_don17 5y ago

In India, at a FAANG, it’s usually 40-50% of Bay Area salaries.

varjag 5y ago
We should bear in mind that salaries are only a part of total compensation in U.S. mothership locations.
- oumua_don17 5y ago
  Actually I meant TC is 40-50% of Bay Area TC. Thanks for pointing out TC vs salary. I can’t edit my original comment.

FractalParadigm 5y ago

> my knowledge of Canada is too far out of date to be useful All I can say, is in personal anecdotal experience, I make about the same money (with better hours!) in my current factory job than I would have if I finished my degree and went into software, and with none of the stress or crunch time or deadline associated. For example, looking at Glassdoor they have Google's Toronto office reporting starting salaries of ~$90-100k - while my base pay is only ~$62k ($29.50/hr) we get double-time overtime after 40 hours, I can (and have) clear(ed) well over $130k/yr with minimal effort. They're offering decent salaries compared to other tech jobs in the area, but it's average-at-best if you start comparing unskilled labourer salaries in as a comparison.

onlyrealcuzzo 5y ago
Glassdoor is pretty bad for salaries at FAANG. That might be the average base for someone in Toronto. But they're getting a bonus of 15%, plus RSUs usually of about ~50%+ of base - but in the last year these RSUs have doubled, so ~100%+ of base.