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> Mitigation means to reduce something [...] mitigating impacts isn’t (solving/reducing) I don't really understand what you're getting at, it seems you're co

> Mitigation means to reduce something [...] mitigating impacts isn’t (solving/*reducing*) I don't really understand what you're getting at, it seems you're contradicting yourself? Mitigating the painful impact of climate change to humanity is what we care about. What we need are solutions that can help with that. What about this do you disagree? Edit: Not sure, but after rereading you I think you're thinking by mitigating impact I somehow exclude options of the solution space that would be able to reverse, halt or slow down the change of climate? If so, I am not, stopping the change on climate or controlling how it changes in ways that reduce the negative impact of the current change in climate are definitely valid solutions if they can be implemented and work and have the right trade offs against others etc.

Retric 5y ago
> I somehow exclude options of the solution space I really don’t think their are mitigation options. The classic example of an attempt to reverse climate change is to put a large sunshade in space at L1. That sounds like a direct solution as it lowers the global temperature except climate is more complex than just average global temperatures. The ratio of energy released into space at the equator vs the poles changes as you alter the worlds CO2 concentration. A sunshade has a huge range of less obvious knock on effects due to this which alters jet streams, rainfall, etc. Thus, you still end up with a huge shift in climate even if the temperature is returned to normal. Similarly, reducing the rate of CO2 release isn’t mitigation because there isn’t improvement. Gaining weight slower isn’t weight loss. Now, reversing climate change by having net negative human CO2 emissions is an actual solution. Except to reach that point we would need to have zero net emissions at some point which on it’s own stops climate change. Personally, I wouldn’t call building a levy after a flood ends as mitigating the flood, but that’s more of a semantic argument. PS: I know that seems silly, but consider this. Diversified investing is a risk mitigation strategy because risk is actually reduced. On the other hand if if your broke and don’t invest then there isn’t any investments at risk which IMO isn’t risk mitigation. Carbon capture after zero net emissions seems like that to me.

> Mitigation means to reduce something [...] mitigating impacts isn’t (solving/*reducing*) I don't really understand what you're getting at, it seems you're co

Retric 5y ago

> I somehow exclude options of the solution space I really don’t think their are mitigation options. The classic example of an attempt to reverse climate change is to put a large sunshade in space at L1. That sounds like a direct solution as it lowers the global temperature except climate is more complex than just average global temperatures. The ratio of energy released into space at the equator vs the poles changes as you alter the worlds CO2 concentration. A sunshade has a huge range of less obvious knock on effects due to this which alters jet streams, rainfall, etc. Thus, you still end up with a huge shift in climate even if the temperature is returned to normal. Similarly, reducing the rate of CO2 release isn’t mitigation because there isn’t improvement. Gaining weight slower isn’t weight loss. Now, reversing climate change by having net negative human CO2 emissions is an actual solution. Except to reach that point we would need to have zero net emissions at some point which on it’s own stops climate change. Personally, I wouldn’t call building a levy after a flood ends as mitigating the flood, but that’s more of a semantic argument. PS: I know that seems silly, but consider this. Diversified investing is a risk mitigation strategy because risk is actually reduced. On the other hand if if your broke and don’t invest then there isn’t any investments at risk which IMO isn’t risk mitigation. Carbon capture after zero net emissions seems like that to me.