Agreed, but there are certain people I've experienced who simply can never acquiesce to stoic doctrine. To poorly paraphrase Epictetus (from "Against followers

Agreed, but there are certain people I've experienced who simply can never acquiesce to stoic doctrine. To poorly paraphrase Epictetus (from "Against followers of the academy"): When a man had hardened himself against what is manifestly clear, what argument, what flaming sword can I bring to bear against him?