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> That means doing getting multiple offers within the same time period before you accept one. I need help on getting to the salary negotiation part with multip

> That means doing getting multiple offers within the same time period before you accept one. I need help on getting to the salary negotiation part with multiple companies at the same time though. This is the instruction booklet for landing a lunar lander on the Moon. I need the one for the Saturn V.

grepfru_it 5y ago
Accept offer A. Receive offer B. If offer B > offer A, let company A know something has come up and you cannot continue employment. Accept offer B. Lather, rinse, repeat for each offer. The better offer may be salary, perks, or just better work conditions. I once left a company after working there for 9 days because I got an offer working with my friend. I didn't even get a better salary and my friend ended up leaving after 3 months..
- axpy906 5y ago
  That’s not how to do it. You get offer A and B then push them to bid on you. Having competing offers gives you leverage, use that to get the best employment terms.
- aix1 5y ago
  I think that's a recipe for becoming unemployable.
  - grepfru_it 5y ago
    You obviously stop at some point, a 6 month gap on your resume is not a good look.
lifeisstillgood 5y ago
A lesson I did not learn: I dedicated each lunch hour every day for a couple of months ringing up companies and agencies. I moved jobs three times and doubled my salary in that year - which seemed good. Then I attended a seminar - the question was asked who used agencies and who used their "network" for new jobs / freelance work. I was the only hand up to go used agencies and the traditional job hunt. So it's the old saw - keep a profile up - blog, project, podcast whatever, so you can use that as an excuse to stay in touch with ex-colleagues so that they might think of you when they are hiring in 3 years. As I said not a lesson I have learned but people who earn more than me recommend it
- mooreds 5y ago
  And don't dismiss LinkedIn! It's a rolodex other people keep up to date. Log on once a week and like posts by other folks (job posts, interesting articles, whatever). Send a congrats message as suggested by LI when someone starts a new job. Send someone a job that seems like it might be of interest to them when you see it. Post something you wrote/built/read about. The goal is to keep in touch so that when you are ready to start looking, you aren't starting from ground zero.
avidiax 5y ago
1st: interviewing is a game. Treat it as such. Leetcode like hell. Tune your behavioral responses to the stated principles of the target company, and your experience/resume to the needs of that company. 2nd: Submitting resumes goes nowhere. You need referrals. Ask for them shamelessly. You don't need to know the referee. That will at least get your resume looked at. This is their game, so play it. 3rd: have an idea of the timeline to an offer for various companies. Do your Google/Facebook interviews early, more nimble companies later. Start the whole thing off with some practice interviews at companies you don't like. The goal is to have multiple offers in play at the same time. 4th: Don't tell recruiters about your other offers until it's too late and they've decided that they want you. Only tell them about offers that they might compete against (usually their direct competitors), 2 others max. If you'd work at company A for $80 b/c they have a cool product, but would need $100 to work at company B b/c they suck, when you tell company B about your offer at company A, fudge that company's numbers upward. Otherwise, you'll get an offer for $81 from company B and turn them down.

grepfru_it 5y ago

Accept offer A. Receive offer B. If offer B > offer A, let company A know something has come up and you cannot continue employment. Accept offer B. Lather, rinse, repeat for each offer. The better offer may be salary, perks, or just better work conditions. I once left a company after working there for 9 days because I got an offer working with my friend. I didn't even get a better salary and my friend ended up leaving after 3 months..

axpy906 5y ago
That’s not how to do it. You get offer A and B then push them to bid on you. Having competing offers gives you leverage, use that to get the best employment terms.
aix1 5y ago
I think that's a recipe for becoming unemployable.
- grepfru_it 5y ago
  You obviously stop at some point, a 6 month gap on your resume is not a good look.

lifeisstillgood 5y ago

A lesson I did not learn: I dedicated each lunch hour every day for a couple of months ringing up companies and agencies. I moved jobs three times and doubled my salary in that year - which seemed good. Then I attended a seminar - the question was asked who used agencies and who used their "network" for new jobs / freelance work. I was the only hand up to go used agencies and the traditional job hunt. So it's the old saw - keep a profile up - blog, project, podcast whatever, so you can use that as an excuse to stay in touch with ex-colleagues so that they might think of you when they are hiring in 3 years. As I said not a lesson I have learned but people who earn more than me recommend it

mooreds 5y ago
And don't dismiss LinkedIn! It's a rolodex other people keep up to date. Log on once a week and like posts by other folks (job posts, interesting articles, whatever). Send a congrats message as suggested by LI when someone starts a new job. Send someone a job that seems like it might be of interest to them when you see it. Post something you wrote/built/read about. The goal is to keep in touch so that when you are ready to start looking, you aren't starting from ground zero.

avidiax 5y ago

1st: interviewing is a game. Treat it as such. Leetcode like hell. Tune your behavioral responses to the stated principles of the target company, and your experience/resume to the needs of that company. 2nd: Submitting resumes goes nowhere. You need referrals. Ask for them shamelessly. You don't need to know the referee. That will at least get your resume looked at. This is their game, so play it. 3rd: have an idea of the timeline to an offer for various companies. Do your Google/Facebook interviews early, more nimble companies later. Start the whole thing off with some practice interviews at companies you don't like. The goal is to have multiple offers in play at the same time. 4th: Don't tell recruiters about your other offers until it's too late and they've decided that they want you. Only tell them about offers that they might compete against (usually their direct competitors), 2 others max. If you'd work at company A for $80 b/c they have a cool product, but would need $100 to work at company B b/c they suck, when you tell company B about your offer at company A, fudge that company's numbers upward. Otherwise, you'll get an offer for $81 from company B and turn them down.