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The part in the article about finding time to work out hit hard. He's right: there is so little time to work out because it takes 1hr to work out and 1hr to tra

The part in the article about finding time to work out hit hard. He's right: there is so little time to work out because it takes 1hr to work out and 1hr to travel/clean up: 2hrs is a big deal when you only have ~4 hours free hours per day to take care of life. That made me pretty depressed, not just for me but for every overweight person who is being shamed about not exercising. You have to exercise a lot to alter your physique, and cramming that into normal life with a 10hr/day job and kids is brutal. What's worse: this is from 2010. Pre-microtransation in video games, pre-dozens of $10 TV channels fighting over a few film copyrights, pre-subscription-razors, subscription juice, subscription groceries, subscription everything... I can't believe people who pay $15/month for one TV channel (Disney+) are shelling out $30 to rent (not own!) the latest blockbuster. Blows my mind. I'm old enough to remember in the 80's when conservatives blamed poor kids for saving up to buy $100 Air Jordans as some kind of societal ill, when in reality it was just the correct operation of the American consumerism. Marketing has really upped its game in 40 years.

irremediable 5y ago
> That made me pretty depressed, not just for me but for every overweight person who is being shamed about not exercising. FWIW most weight change is due to diet. If you're overweight, exercise is probably a much lower priority than finding a way to sustainably eat less. I'm not just sounding off here; I lost 20+ kg by tracking what I ate and eating less.
- throwawayboise 5y ago
  Weight change happens depending on whether calories consumed - calories burned is positive or negative. Diet tends to be more effective for weight loss because it's a lot easier to cut excess empty calories than it is to burn them off with exercise. Jogging a mile might burn 150 calories. Eating a Big Mac adds 600.
  - sokoloff 5y ago
    Summarized memorably as “you can’t outrun the fork” or “the most effective exercise for weight loss is an early tricep extension at the table”
criddell 5y ago
> shelling out $30 to rent My family of four can pay $30 + grocery store food costs to have dinner and a movie or we can pay around $100 to go see a movie and have dinner at Alamo. $30 is a bargain.
- SavantIdiot 5y ago
  You're proving my point: that same film is $100 in the cinema. $100!! But the Overton window pushed you into thinking $30 is a bargain. You think that wasn't intentional?
  - criddell 5y ago
    How isn't it a bargain?
    - SavantIdiot 5y ago
      Because you've been tricked into thinking $30 isn't so bad compared to $100, when you should be demanding $20 for the cinema for all four of your family, instead of rolling over and saying, "Jeez, I sure got a deal." That's what the Overton Window is all about: making one option artificially bad so that you don't negotiate and take whatever other option they give you. But if everyone just shuffles along and opens their wallets to whatever the studios ask for, they will absolutely charge more.
      - criddell 5y ago
        When I mentioned $100, that was for food and the movie. Second, we can all go to the movies for $20 and even less if we are willing to wait. There are "dollar" theaters where tickets are less than $5. But, if we want to see a new movie and want to go to the modern theater with a full menu, comfy seats, and a great sound system, then it costs more. $12 / ticket for 90+ minutes of entertainment doesn't seem out of line. The same goes for watching movies at home. We can get plenty for free if we are willing to sit through commercials or watch one of thousands we have available through services we subscribe to. But if we want to watch the new thing tonight, it's $30.
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dragonwriter 5y ago
> He's right: there is so little time to work out because it takes 1hr to work out and 1hr to travel/clean up: Then do shorter workouts (a 30 minute workout is still good), kill travel (workout at, or if its by running/biking starting/ending at) home. Merge cleanup: do it before your morning shower. > $15/month for one TV channel (Disney+) Disney+ (or other major atreaming service) isn't really comparable to one TV channel; each is more comparable to the whole stable of channels available from a single media megacorp (and often bigger megacorps than a decade ago, because mergers.) > You have to exercise a lot to alter your physique, If you are a competitive body builder. For most people that want to transform physique and improve fitness, you need to exercise a bit to maintain muscle mass and tone, and improve (both by reducing excess calories and improving nutrition focus) your diet.

irremediable 5y ago

> That made me pretty depressed, not just for me but for every overweight person who is being shamed about not exercising. FWIW most weight change is due to diet. If you're overweight, exercise is probably a much lower priority than finding a way to sustainably eat less. I'm not just sounding off here; I lost 20+ kg by tracking what I ate and eating less.

throwawayboise 5y ago
Weight change happens depending on whether calories consumed - calories burned is positive or negative. Diet tends to be more effective for weight loss because it's a lot easier to cut excess empty calories than it is to burn them off with exercise. Jogging a mile might burn 150 calories. Eating a Big Mac adds 600.
- sokoloff 5y ago
  Summarized memorably as “you can’t outrun the fork” or “the most effective exercise for weight loss is an early tricep extension at the table”

criddell 5y ago

> shelling out $30 to rent My family of four can pay $30 + grocery store food costs to have dinner and a movie or we can pay around $100 to go see a movie and have dinner at Alamo. $30 is a bargain.

SavantIdiot 5y ago
You're proving my point: that same film is $100 in the cinema. $100!! But the Overton window pushed you into thinking $30 is a bargain. You think that wasn't intentional?
- criddell 5y ago
  How isn't it a bargain?
  - SavantIdiot 5y ago
    Because you've been tricked into thinking $30 isn't so bad compared to $100, when you should be demanding $20 for the cinema for all four of your family, instead of rolling over and saying, "Jeez, I sure got a deal." That's what the Overton Window is all about: making one option artificially bad so that you don't negotiate and take whatever other option they give you. But if everyone just shuffles along and opens their wallets to whatever the studios ask for, they will absolutely charge more.
    - criddell 5y ago
      When I mentioned $100, that was for food and the movie. Second, we can all go to the movies for $20 and even less if we are willing to wait. There are "dollar" theaters where tickets are less than $5. But, if we want to see a new movie and want to go to the modern theater with a full menu, comfy seats, and a great sound system, then it costs more. $12 / ticket for 90+ minutes of entertainment doesn't seem out of line. The same goes for watching movies at home. We can get plenty for free if we are willing to sit through commercials or watch one of thousands we have available through services we subscribe to. But if we want to watch the new thing tonight, it's $30.

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dragonwriter 5y ago

> He's right: there is so little time to work out because it takes 1hr to work out and 1hr to travel/clean up: Then do shorter workouts (a 30 minute workout is still good), kill travel (workout at, or if its by running/biking starting/ending at) home. Merge cleanup: do it before your morning shower. > $15/month for one TV channel (Disney+) Disney+ (or other major atreaming service) isn't really comparable to one TV channel; each is more comparable to the whole stable of channels available from a single media megacorp (and often bigger megacorps than a decade ago, because mergers.) > You have to exercise a lot to alter your physique, If you are a competitive body builder. For most people that want to transform physique and improve fitness, you need to exercise a bit to maintain muscle mass and tone, and improve (both by reducing excess calories and improving nutrition focus) your diet.