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> First of all, using "noob" like that is offensive. Everyone's a "noob" at some point. And if that's how you talk and treat people, I probably wouldn't want yo
by indymike 5y ago
> First of all, using "noob" like that is offensive. Everyone's a "noob" at some point. And if that's how you talk and treat people, I probably wouldn't want your help.
Unfortunately, a word needs to exist that stands in for this:
"Person, who isn't so different than myself when I started, with little experience who is mistake prone due to the lack of experience, who's mistakes creates disruption and often great expense at the most inconvenient times."
Being offended by noob just makes communication more difficult, and does not really change anything. We've had all kinds of much more offensive names for the same thing (many other names imply race, social status and so on). noob seems to be about as offensive as rookie, but one syllable less.
- alisonkisk 5y agoNewbie is a nicer word.
- cain 5y agoNoob is just a contraction of Newbie. Newbie -> Newb -> Noob. It's still used interchangeably with Newb.
- b3morales 5y agoWhy?
- kangalioo 5y ago"Noob" has a negative connotation. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Noob https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Noob > Contrary to the belief of many, a noob/n00b and a newbie/newb are not the same thing. Newbs are those who are new to some task* and are very beginner at it, possibly a little overconfident about it, but they are willing to learn and fix their errors to move out of that stage. n00bs, on the other hand, know little and have no will to learn any more. They expect people to do the work for them and then expect to get praised about it The specifics of the definition probably vary depending on who you ask but that's roughly it.
- crazygringo 5y agoIndeed, and it should be clear that "noob" is intentionally/cleverly spelled like "boob" in the sense of "idiot". That's the whole point of the word -- that's the joke. Now it's fine to joke around and call yourself a noob, that's just self-deprecating. But if you're talking about other people and don't want to inadvertently offend, stick to "newbie" in speech or "newbie/newb" in writing, which have a connotation entirely of "beginner" as opposed to "idiot". (Of course, if you're among friends where you enjoy making fun of each other, say whatever you want!)
- useragent86 5y agoI've been using the term noob for decades. Reading your comment is the first time I've ever seen anyone compare it with boob. There is a big world out there, with lots of different people using words to mean things.
- crazygringo 5y agoWell it's certainly widely established that "noob" is more derogatory [1] [2]. Take that for what you will when you choose to use it. [1] https://www.etymonline.com/word/noob https://www.etymonline.com/word/noob [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newbie#Connotations_of_variants https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newbie#Connotations_of_variant...
- magpi3 5y agoBeginner or junior developer works. Noob has a history of being used in a derogatory sense, so that's how many people read it.