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It’s clear russiagate was a disinformation campaign which was also a convenient cope for all those people that were losing their minds that America could elect

It’s clear russiagate was a disinformation campaign which was also a convenient cope for all those people that were losing their minds that America could elect Trump.

Applejinx 5y ago
No, there's historical precedent, plenty of motive, and it's in line with the specific political tactics that have governed Russia for quite a while now. Adam Curtis's 'Hypernormalization' touched on this. It's also been very clear to anyone who's watched it happen on places like Reddit that 'russiagate' itself is a meme driven by powerful media management, brigading, and trolling. Anytime you're in a community and have the ability to examine heavily downvoted content and analyze it for the likely reasons it got hammered with six times the downvotes any other post in the community got, you don't soon forget what you observed.
- birdyrooster 5y ago
  There is a difference between a successful disinformation campaign and idiots electing a demagogue. Yes there is always disinformation campaigns and espionage between governments. But was it significant enough to blame for Americans electing Trump? Nah. If you are looking for a delusional character that will say that Russia doesn’t do this, go watch Jimmy Dore.
salimmadjd 5y ago
Many Americans still do not realize Trump won riding on $5 billions in free media advertising[1] Hillary also edged Bernie in the primaries receiving over $740m over sanders $320m [2] We also know free media is becoming more effective than political advertising [3] Which all means if you want to blame anyone in stealing the election it’s the corporate media. Also brings up the point that we really need to reinstitute some kind of equal coverage time, otherwise all these election donation limits are meaningless when media bosses can give billions to their favorite candidates. [1] https://www.thestreet.com/politics/donald-trump-rode-5-billion-in-free-media-to-the-white-house-13896916 https://www.thestreet.com/politics/donald-trump-rode-5-billi... [2] https://money.cnn.com/2016/03/15/media/trump-free-media-coverage/ https://money.cnn.com/2016/03/15/media/trump-free-media-cove... [3] https://www.businessinsider.com/2020-election-confirmed-free-media-is-better-than-political-ads-2020-12 https://www.businessinsider.com/2020-election-confirmed-free...

It’s clear russiagate was a disinformation campaign which was also a convenient cope for all those people that were losing their minds that America could elect Trump.

Applejinx 5y ago

No, there's historical precedent, plenty of motive, and it's in line with the specific political tactics that have governed Russia for quite a while now. Adam Curtis's 'Hypernormalization' touched on this. It's also been very clear to anyone who's watched it happen on places like Reddit that 'russiagate' itself is a meme driven by powerful media management, brigading, and trolling. Anytime you're in a community and have the ability to examine heavily downvoted content and analyze it for the likely reasons it got hammered with six times the downvotes any other post in the community got, you don't soon forget what you observed.

birdyrooster 5y ago
There is a difference between a successful disinformation campaign and idiots electing a demagogue. Yes there is always disinformation campaigns and espionage between governments. But was it significant enough to blame for Americans electing Trump? Nah. If you are looking for a delusional character that will say that Russia doesn’t do this, go watch Jimmy Dore.

salimmadjd 5y ago

Many Americans still do not realize Trump won riding on $5 billions in free media advertising[1] Hillary also edged Bernie in the primaries receiving over $740m over sanders $320m [2] We also know free media is becoming more effective than political advertising [3] Which all means if you want to blame anyone in stealing the election it’s the corporate media. Also brings up the point that we really need to reinstitute some kind of equal coverage time, otherwise all these election donation limits are meaningless when media bosses can give billions to their favorite candidates. [1] https://www.thestreet.com/politics/donald-trump-rode-5-billion-in-free-media-to-the-white-house-13896916 https://www.thestreet.com/politics/donald-trump-rode-5-billi... [2] https://money.cnn.com/2016/03/15/media/trump-free-media-coverage/ https://money.cnn.com/2016/03/15/media/trump-free-media-cove... [3] https://www.businessinsider.com/2020-election-confirmed-free-media-is-better-than-political-ads-2020-12 https://www.businessinsider.com/2020-election-confirmed-free...