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Because the only reason they are doing this is because they can't be bothered to force their male attendees to adhere to a standard of common decency. They woul
by cosgroveb 15y ago
Because the only reason they are doing this is because they can't be bothered to force their male attendees to adhere to a standard of common decency. They would rather remove the need for them to be good human beings. Also it is tantamount to blaming women for the men's behavior.
It is not uncommon for minorities in any group to be encouraged to show solidarity (women only events in tech for instance) while the same is frowned upon for the privileged majority.
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- JeremyBanks 15y agoMen are not a majority in the United States. No, but men are a supermajority among gamers, or in the tech community. That's what he was referring to.
- diolpah 15y agoFair point. Parent post removed.
- sp332 15y agoIn FPS games, maybe. But overall, there are more adult women playing games than boys under 18, and women make up about 42% of all gamers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_games#Demographics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_games#Demographics
- ceejayoz 15y agoMinority status can indicate a power imbalance, not simply a numeric one.
- sesqu 15y agoNo, it cannot.
- noahc 15y agoMinority status is one in which a feeling of 'lesserness' occurs. That lesserness is caused by a power imbalance, perceived or real. A non-human example of this is between humans and insects. If it was about non-power (numerical) then humans would be considered a minority on planet earth, but because humans have ways to take control over insects (urban fogging, bug spray, bug zappers) they are considered a 'minority' interest. It isn't all about numbers, it's about power. A perhaps more real world example would be women on college campuses, still considered a minority, but typically have a 5 point advantage on men!
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- cosgroveb 15y agoDid I say women were a minority in Texas or the United States? We are talking about tech and gaming here. Are you seriously suggesting women are not minorities in either of those communities?
- yummyfajitas 15y agoOn the contrary, they are doing this because their female attendees have been (in the past) intolerant of the culture of computer gaming. Trash talk is not bad behavior - it's an equally valid form of expression used primarily in certain subcultures (basketball among black men, gaming). This sort of behavior, particularly when used in what should otherwise be a safe space for a minority group traditionally excluded from society (young male gamers), serves only to exclude and already disadvantaged group. Incidentally, do you also believe black men playing basketball (who often use language similar to gamers) are also bad human beings?
- jbooth 15y agoPlease, someone, think of the young white males! :) This is a tempest in a teapot for sure, but seriously, that's your concern here? The poor young male gamers?
- cosgroveb 15y agoThis thread is quickly becoming /r/MensRights. I also like how yummyfajitas states that young male gamers have traditionally been excluded by society. I'm a geek. I grew up as a socially maladjusted "gamer," but I'm not blaming society for my own lack of social skills. Cry me a river.
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- cosgroveb 15y agoYour example, "black men playing basketball" are a homogeneous group by virtue of your definition. Their trash talk, again, by definition can't consist of one group disparaging another using slurs... I hope you like the slam-dunk of setting up a straw man and knocking it down.
- urbanjunkie 15y agoSo, because you've been bullied, it's ok for everyone to be.