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What's the difference between what you propose and the (PGP) web of trust? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_trust https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_trus

What's the difference between what you propose and the (PGP) web of trust? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_trust https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_trust

TekMol 5y ago
It is related but not the same. WOT: "The owner of this key is Joe Doe as confirmed by Susi Dusi and Lars Lampert". What I mean: "The ownder of this key has a popularity of 23 (as can be seen on chain) and a karma of 75 (as calculated from my personal social graph or interests and on chain data)". Looking at a Bitcoin address you can see that the owner of that address owns at least X bitcoin. But you don't know who he is. This is what I propose for popularity and karma.
- wereHamster 5y ago
  I see. Though you still need a way to prevent rogue actors exploiting or gaming the system. The popularity (on chain) has no meaning if it's trivial to grow it (see google's page rank), or if it's not transparent where it's coming from (for example I would not trust a bitcoin address if I knew its inputs are coming from criminal activities).
- Proven 5y ago
  Ransomware shops with plenty of affiliates should rank well on it
- tomjen3 5y ago
  How does my grandmother translate this into "is this safe to click on"?
  - bombcar 5y ago
    She doesn’t. You’d have to have a browser that programmatically utilizes the info to allow or deny the link. I think it should go one step further - if Google determines a link is a Apple ID phishing link it just silently redirects it to Apple’s real ID login page. Anything that presents a barrier that you can apparently solve is going to be bypassed. The largest providers could register their login page look and feel with the biggest browsers and nobody would be allowed to mimic them.
    - wereHamster 5y ago
      > The largest providers could register their login page look and feel with the biggest browsers and nobody would be allowed to mimic them. Lol, amazon would in a heartbeat declare any page which has two input fields and a button as a 'login page' (regardless of the actual styling).

What's the difference between what you propose and the (PGP) web of trust? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_trust https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_trust

TekMol 5y ago

It is related but not the same. WOT: "The owner of this key is Joe Doe as confirmed by Susi Dusi and Lars Lampert". What I mean: "The ownder of this key has a popularity of 23 (as can be seen on chain) and a karma of 75 (as calculated from my personal social graph or interests and on chain data)". Looking at a Bitcoin address you can see that the owner of that address owns at least X bitcoin. But you don't know who he is. This is what I propose for popularity and karma.

wereHamster 5y ago
I see. Though you still need a way to prevent rogue actors exploiting or gaming the system. The popularity (on chain) has no meaning if it's trivial to grow it (see google's page rank), or if it's not transparent where it's coming from (for example I would not trust a bitcoin address if I knew its inputs are coming from criminal activities).
Proven 5y ago
Ransomware shops with plenty of affiliates should rank well on it
tomjen3 5y ago
How does my grandmother translate this into "is this safe to click on"?
- bombcar 5y ago
  She doesn’t. You’d have to have a browser that programmatically utilizes the info to allow or deny the link. I think it should go one step further - if Google determines a link is a Apple ID phishing link it just silently redirects it to Apple’s real ID login page. Anything that presents a barrier that you can apparently solve is going to be bypassed. The largest providers could register their login page look and feel with the biggest browsers and nobody would be allowed to mimic them.
  - wereHamster 5y ago
    > The largest providers could register their login page look and feel with the biggest browsers and nobody would be allowed to mimic them. Lol, amazon would in a heartbeat declare any page which has two input fields and a button as a 'login page' (regardless of the actual styling).