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Let me start by saying that I've seen some really horrible and disgusting treatment of women compared to men. At one place. Out of 10. At least around here I a

Let me start by saying that I've seen some really horrible and disgusting treatment of women compared to men. At one place. Out of 10. At least around here I also see that if two persons, one woman and one man, apply for the same position, and they are seen as exactly equally qualified, the woman gets hired first. Why? Because amount of women in the department is a KPI. I also see men walking circles around these issues, taking quite a lot more stupidity from a girl than from a man. I tried to wait a few weeks with one particular know-it-all that was a master in my field (or so she behaved) after 18 months of work. There are many brilliant women in tech, and then there is those that get paid as dev evangelist and get people booted from PyCon after listening in to someone elses conversation for something far less insulting then whatever she herself had posted publicly on Twitter short time before. I think the actual women in tech would do well to stand up to these who abuse it. And if you live in the Nordics at least and experience actual discrimination, look for a new job.

st3fan 5y ago
> At least around here I also see that if two persons, one woman and one man, apply for the same position, and they are seen as exactly equally qualified, the woman gets hired first. Why? Because amount of women in the department is a KPI. Explain why this is a problem? You say these two candidates are equally great. Should the man have been picked?
- skinkestek 5y ago
  No, absolutely not. I'm just pointing out that at least around here, and in the companies I want to work in, women has an advantage from before they are hired. I don't think this is necessarily true in USA and many other places. But together with the PyCon story and others where men are massively disadvantaged while everyone pretend it is always easy for all men it might explain a bit of the feelings you sometimes see.
  - st3fan 5y ago
    It is interesting that you say "men are massively disadvantaged". Because as a hiring manager I can tell you that my experience is that usually for engineering positions, 99 out of 100 applicants are ... men ...

st3fan 5y ago

> At least around here I also see that if two persons, one woman and one man, apply for the same position, and they are seen as exactly equally qualified, the woman gets hired first. Why? Because amount of women in the department is a KPI. Explain why this is a problem? You say these two candidates are equally great. Should the man have been picked?

skinkestek 5y ago
No, absolutely not. I'm just pointing out that at least around here, and in the companies I want to work in, women has an advantage from before they are hired. I don't think this is necessarily true in USA and many other places. But together with the PyCon story and others where men are massively disadvantaged while everyone pretend it is always easy for all men it might explain a bit of the feelings you sometimes see.
- st3fan 5y ago
  It is interesting that you say "men are massively disadvantaged". Because as a hiring manager I can tell you that my experience is that usually for engineering positions, 99 out of 100 applicants are ... men ...