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>During the botched robbery attempt, a woman suffered a nonfatal gunshot wound. Ian turned himself in to the police and was charged as an adult with armed robbe

>During the botched robbery attempt, a woman suffered a nonfatal gunshot wound. Ian turned himself in to the police and was charged as an adult with armed robbery and attempted murder. I'm confused, did he shoot her or not?

lmm 5y ago
The article wants you to be confused; acknowledging clearly that he shot her, or giving more details to humanise her, would detract from its position.
- drno123 5y ago
  I cannot help but think that the cruel punshment did indeed work. The guy apologised to the victim and it seems he is a new man now. If he was given a shorter sentence without solitary, he would probably make friends with other prisoners and continue shooting people after he got out od the prison.
  - monkeydreams 5y ago
    > I cannot help but think that the cruel punshment did indeed work. I struggle to understand how you reach that conclusion. Occams Razor would suggest that one only need to assume that a thirteen year old might only need to grow p for this outcome to be plausible. > If he was given a shorter sentence without solitary, he would probably make friends with other prisoners and continue shooting people after he got out od the prison. Or, hear me out here, if you put the prisoners in a situation where they are able to learn behaviours that reinforce social norms rather than jamming them together likes rats in a cage guarded by sadistic lab technicians, then you probably would have lower recidivism rates. This is what the data says, when comparing the conservative penal systems in the West (with rates of 50%+ after 2 years) with progressive states (with rates around 20-25% after 2 years). It turns out not treating people like monsters means you have fewer monsters.
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falomor 5y ago
>That’s when 13-year-old Ian pulled the trigger and shot her right in the face. The outcome could have been fatal. “It blew out all the bottom teeth and the gums on the lower left side of my mouth,” she said. https://www.goalcast.com/2020/08/04/woman-frees-man-who-shot-her-in-the-face-26-years-later/ https://www.goalcast.com/2020/08/04/woman-frees-man-who-shot...

lmm 5y ago

The article wants you to be confused; acknowledging clearly that he shot her, or giving more details to humanise her, would detract from its position.

drno123 5y ago
I cannot help but think that the cruel punshment did indeed work. The guy apologised to the victim and it seems he is a new man now. If he was given a shorter sentence without solitary, he would probably make friends with other prisoners and continue shooting people after he got out od the prison.
- monkeydreams 5y ago
  > I cannot help but think that the cruel punshment did indeed work. I struggle to understand how you reach that conclusion. Occams Razor would suggest that one only need to assume that a thirteen year old might only need to grow p for this outcome to be plausible. > If he was given a shorter sentence without solitary, he would probably make friends with other prisoners and continue shooting people after he got out od the prison. Or, hear me out here, if you put the prisoners in a situation where they are able to learn behaviours that reinforce social norms rather than jamming them together likes rats in a cage guarded by sadistic lab technicians, then you probably would have lower recidivism rates. This is what the data says, when comparing the conservative penal systems in the West (with rates of 50%+ after 2 years) with progressive states (with rates around 20-25% after 2 years). It turns out not treating people like monsters means you have fewer monsters.
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falomor 5y ago

>That’s when 13-year-old Ian pulled the trigger and shot her right in the face. The outcome could have been fatal. “It blew out all the bottom teeth and the gums on the lower left side of my mouth,” she said. https://www.goalcast.com/2020/08/04/woman-frees-man-who-shot-her-in-the-face-26-years-later/ https://www.goalcast.com/2020/08/04/woman-frees-man-who-shot...