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I see. Look, for me it does not add up. I mean, what is their end game? If the whole thing gains public support and popularity, which we have to assume their i

by forcry 5y ago

I see. Look, for me it does not add up. I mean, what is their end game? If the whole thing gains public support and popularity, which we have to assume their intention is, the people in the video can be easily followed up and their claims validated (I am pretty sure the opposition would love to do it, which would be also quite easy). Which will ultimately backfire on themselves, which make it unlikely to be their (at least the senator's) endgame.. So what is it? Also, why is there no fact check that "debunks" the whole thing?

SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
> Which will ultimately backfire on themselves, which make it unlikely to be their (at least the senator's) endgame.. Will it? Are you sure? US media is now so polarised that the various echo-chambers almost never intersect. The US right anti-covid train has been going for an appallingly long time, why would it stop now due to mere facts. There have been facts all long, that hasn't made a difference. To that topic or others that I could name. > Also, why is there no fact check that "debunks" the whole thing? Are you sure that there isn't? Have you looked? I linked to an article "debunking" the same character, upthread. I know their name and their position, but I do not follow all their antics: Circus clowns gonna circus clown. It's not on me to research a debunking of that specific performance.
- forcry 5y ago
  >Will it? Are you sure? Pretty sure. Why do you think the opposition won't take care of it? >Are you sure that there isn't? It would help if you ignore the politician in it. I am taking about the actual people in the first video, who claim to have suffered AEFIs.
  - SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
    > Why do you think the opposition won't take care of it? As I said above, recent track record. This is not a thing that we see happening, so why would it start happening now? Do you not think that the media spheres are disjoint, as I said above? > I am taking about the actual people in the first video, who claim to have suffered AEFIs. So then, are you sure that there isn't a fact check that "debunks" that? Have you looked?
    - forcry 5y ago
      > This is not a thing that we see happening, I asked a specific question about opposition not interested in "debunking" the "dubious" claims of those people organized by the senator. You seem to be talking about some "anti-covid train". So may be it will help if you address my question. > Have you looked? https://www.wisn.com/article/sen-ron-johnson-holding-milwaukee-forum-on-adverse-vaccine-reaction-claims/36842208 https://www.wisn.com/article/sen-ron-johnson-holding-milwauk... Does not mention or doubt the legitimacy of the victims of AEFI.

by forcry 5y ago

SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago

> Which will ultimately backfire on themselves, which make it unlikely to be their (at least the senator's) endgame.. Will it? Are you sure? US media is now so polarised that the various echo-chambers almost never intersect. The US right anti-covid train has been going for an appallingly long time, why would it stop now due to mere facts. There have been facts all long, that hasn't made a difference. To that topic or others that I could name. > Also, why is there no fact check that "debunks" the whole thing? Are you sure that there isn't? Have you looked? I linked to an article "debunking" the same character, upthread. I know their name and their position, but I do not follow all their antics: Circus clowns gonna circus clown. It's not on me to research a debunking of that specific performance.

forcry 5y ago
>Will it? Are you sure? Pretty sure. Why do you think the opposition won't take care of it? >Are you sure that there isn't? It would help if you ignore the politician in it. I am taking about the actual people in the first video, who claim to have suffered AEFIs.
- SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
  > Why do you think the opposition won't take care of it? As I said above, recent track record. This is not a thing that we see happening, so why would it start happening now? Do you not think that the media spheres are disjoint, as I said above? > I am taking about the actual people in the first video, who claim to have suffered AEFIs. So then, are you sure that there isn't a fact check that "debunks" that? Have you looked?
  - forcry 5y ago
    > This is not a thing that we see happening, I asked a specific question about opposition not interested in "debunking" the "dubious" claims of those people organized by the senator. You seem to be talking about some "anti-covid train". So may be it will help if you address my question. > Have you looked? https://www.wisn.com/article/sen-ron-johnson-holding-milwaukee-forum-on-adverse-vaccine-reaction-claims/36842208 https://www.wisn.com/article/sen-ron-johnson-holding-milwauk... Does not mention or doubt the legitimacy of the victims of AEFI.