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not sure if this is coming back anytime soon: 1. games are a much bigger market than movies, which makes hollywood even more risk averse than usual 2. superhe

by kmlx 5y ago

not sure if this is coming back anytime soon: 1. games are a much bigger market than movies, which makes hollywood even more risk averse than usual 2. superhero movies make most income, sucking up all the talent 3. huge emphasis on TV series in the last decade, again sucking up all the talent for these three reasons i’m not sure if i’ll see another sin city/training day/etc in the near future

tayo42 5y ago
Tv is a better format for visual story telling then movies could ever be. now that we have streaming its not bound to time limits or irrelevant commercial pacing. The stories are longer and can be more in depth. Does TV get the best talent though? For some reason I thought they get paid less despite doing alot more work. All those actors from got went on to try movies afterwards.
- lotsofpulp 5y ago
  More likely, in my opinion, is the the stories can also be too long and all over the place.
  - tayo42 5y ago
    That's true, the potential is higher with TV I think think though. Story telling is a skill that anyone can screw up independent of the medium
  - lmm 5y ago
    Compare the size of the story to another medium with different constraints. A 13- or 26-episode TV series can usually make a decent adaptation of a novel. A movie always has to cut a lot of stuff out.
    - lotsofpulp 5y ago
      The pendulum swings both ways. Unfortunately, I have seen far to many instances of episodic products that are excessively drawn out and waste my time.
- cronix 5y ago
  > For some reason I thought they get paid less despite doing alot more work. Are American TV shows as big of money makers globally as the movie industry? How much do American TV shows make in China vs Hollywood? Are they even shown? I don't know, but have never heard of it but have heard quite a bit about how much Hollywood makes in China. I don't think it's the amount of work that dictates lower salaries for TV acting, but more likely the size of the market that the respective products are sold in and where that market is located (locally vs globally).
- theshrike79 5y ago
  > now that we have streaming its not bound to time limits or irrelevant commercial pacing The Mandalorian is a perfect example of this. The episodes varied from 25 minutes(!) to 47 minutes. Just take the time the plot needs, no more.
theshrike79 5y ago
> 3. huge emphasis on TV series in the last decade, again sucking up all the talent Some stories are just better when they are told in a serial format with more room to breathe. Even if they need to take a budget cut. A recent example being Tomorrow War[0]. It had WAY too much shit happening for the 2h 18min runtime. The same content as a, say, 4 hour miniseries? That would've been fucking amazing. Same budget, same plot, just add more character development (talky bits), a bit slower pacing. Perfect. [0] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9777666/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9777666/

by kmlx 5y ago

tayo42 5y ago

Tv is a better format for visual story telling then movies could ever be. now that we have streaming its not bound to time limits or irrelevant commercial pacing. The stories are longer and can be more in depth. Does TV get the best talent though? For some reason I thought they get paid less despite doing alot more work. All those actors from got went on to try movies afterwards.

lotsofpulp 5y ago
More likely, in my opinion, is the the stories can also be too long and all over the place.
- tayo42 5y ago
  That's true, the potential is higher with TV I think think though. Story telling is a skill that anyone can screw up independent of the medium
- lmm 5y ago
  Compare the size of the story to another medium with different constraints. A 13- or 26-episode TV series can usually make a decent adaptation of a novel. A movie always has to cut a lot of stuff out.
  - lotsofpulp 5y ago
    The pendulum swings both ways. Unfortunately, I have seen far to many instances of episodic products that are excessively drawn out and waste my time.
cronix 5y ago
> For some reason I thought they get paid less despite doing alot more work. Are American TV shows as big of money makers globally as the movie industry? How much do American TV shows make in China vs Hollywood? Are they even shown? I don't know, but have never heard of it but have heard quite a bit about how much Hollywood makes in China. I don't think it's the amount of work that dictates lower salaries for TV acting, but more likely the size of the market that the respective products are sold in and where that market is located (locally vs globally).
theshrike79 5y ago
> now that we have streaming its not bound to time limits or irrelevant commercial pacing The Mandalorian is a perfect example of this. The episodes varied from 25 minutes(!) to 47 minutes. Just take the time the plot needs, no more.

theshrike79 5y ago

> 3. huge emphasis on TV series in the last decade, again sucking up all the talent Some stories are just better when they are told in a serial format with more room to breathe. Even if they need to take a budget cut. A recent example being Tomorrow War[0]. It had WAY too much shit happening for the 2h 18min runtime. The same content as a, say, 4 hour miniseries? That would've been fucking amazing. Same budget, same plot, just add more character development (talky bits), a bit slower pacing. Perfect. [0] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9777666/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9777666/